# Obama Doesn't Remember How Big the Debt Is

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 20, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229 "2012-09-20T01:40:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/21 "2012-09-20T02:59:09Z")

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How horrible! That makes him the worst president ever. Pkbites is so much smarter.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/22 "2012-09-20T03:00:32Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> No, this is tit for Tat. Had Bush done this it would have been all over the news and these boards.

Prove it.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/23 "2012-09-20T03:02:18Z")

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It’s so weird. Is this how it works:

A hypothetical conservative can tell that Romney is fucking it all up. And that conservative feels powerless and angry. So he goes to RW media to get a fresh slice of nonsense to get pissed about.

_This thing_! _This thing_ I just heard of! It’s outrageous! All that stupid shit Romney is doing, none of it matters because of _this thing_!

Every day, it starts all over again.

Is that the deal? Just nonsense issue after nonsense issue to take the pain away?

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/24 "2012-09-20T03:08:13Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> It’s so weird. Is this how it works:
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> A hypothetical conservative can tell that Romney is fucking it all up. And that conservative feels powerless and angry. So he goes to RW media to get a fresh slice of nonsense to get pissed about.
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> _This thing_! _This thing_ I just heard of! It’s outrageous! All that stupid shit Romney is doing, none of it matters because of _this thing_!
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> Every day, it starts all over again. It’s fucking sad and sickening and scary.

They are trying to find something, anything that will stick. It reeks of desperation which is sad.

But the 47% Romney gave a gift that keeps on giving. It’s day two of the Romney Tapes in news cycles if it sticks for 3 days then it has legs.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/25 "2012-09-20T03:13:16Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> You should check Breitbart more often. This was spewing out of the right-wing sound machine eight hours ago.

I have never heard of that website, damn, FOX News is tame compared to that.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/26 "2012-09-20T03:29:05Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> Is it my imagination or are many of the conservatives on this messageboard basically becoming self-parodies as they desperately try to come up with things to salvage this election?

I would hope that no one here is under the delusion that anything discussed on this board has the slightest influence on a national election. This is just opposition for form’s sake, evidently with little in the way of imagination or thought. It reminds me of nothing so much as a right-wing version of the increasingly silly and pointless screeds put up by the banned poster _Reeder_ last cycle.

What strikes me is the almost complete inability of the noisier conservatives around here to express why we should not vote against Obama, but vote for Romney. Sell your product, people, fer cryin’ out loud.

Is the OP seriously arguing that one should bases one’s vote on whether or not Obama accurately expressed a figure for the national debt in a single appearance on a TV variety show? I can’t imagine that’s sincerely the case. It’s negative noise, for form’s sake; that’s all.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/27 "2012-09-20T03:39:07Z")

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You know, once Obamacare is fully rolled out you’ll be able to afford some salve for your bruised vagina.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/28 "2012-09-20T03:59:08Z")

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I feel like the GOP used to be a lot better at this manufactured outrage stuff. What happened?

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/29 "2012-09-20T04:15:37Z")

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It’s worse that he said it wasn’t a problem in the short run.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/30 "2012-09-20T04:16:18Z")

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Thanks for the link. I had missed Obama on Letterman and seeing what a great job he did is making me find the whole interview on the CBS site. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/31 "2012-09-20T04:19:19Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> It’s worse that he said it wasn’t a problem in the short run.

It isn’t a problem in the short run.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/32 "2012-09-20T04:34:31Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> It’s at 2:02.
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> The freaking President of the United States isn’t sure how much our nations [debt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D55384wiUg&feature=youtu.be) is.

This is because he largely doesn’t care. To him it’s a tax problem, not a spending problem.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/33 "2012-09-20T04:41:13Z")

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If he had casually tossed out a correct ballpark figure he’d have been dragged over the coals for it. “He just throws that number out there like it’s nothing! He has sold the country out and he doesn’t even care!”

He’s smart not to say the number. No reason to give the GOP fodder for their ads if they don’t have to.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/34 "2012-09-20T04:58:55Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> This is because he largely doesn’t care. To him it’s a tax problem, not a spending problem.

It’s definitely both. Except for the spending part.

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**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/35 "2012-09-20T05:06:57Z")

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16,020,975,194,914.83

[http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np](http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np)

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**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/36 "2012-09-20T05:08:02Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> It’s definitely both. Except for the spending part.

It’s a spending problem.

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/37 "2012-09-20T05:13:45Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> This is because he largely doesn’t care. To him it’s a tax problem, not a spending problem.

I wonder why that is? Maybe this [graph](http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/growth-federal-spending-revenue)from a conservative site can explain it. Oh, look, spending has leveled off after a sharp rise from two wars and revenue has dropped following a tax cut to the rich. That dumb Obama :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/38 "2012-09-20T05:22:36Z")

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> [@moonshot925](#):
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> It’s a spending problem.

Nope.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/39 "2012-09-20T05:27:10Z")

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> [@moonshot925](#):
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> It’s a spending problem.

Don’t you think you can cut 50% out of several government agencies with no effect to the economy?

That doesn’t suggest you know what you’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-doesnt-remember-how-big-the-debt-is/635229/40 "2012-09-20T05:45:34Z")

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Economic growth is infinite. Thus revenues are infinite. Haven’t you heard? My liberal economics professor told me so!

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