# Obama "finally" chose a church, thank god **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-finally-chose-a-church-thank-god/501383 "2009-06-29T19:32:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-finally-chose-a-church-thank-god/501383/41 "2009-07-07T15:46:57Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Other than being opposed to gay marriage, that is. Rhetorical posturing only. He still supports civil unions and opposes any effort to make SSM illegal at a federal level. > [@](#): > > And other than refusing to repeal “Don’t Ask - Don’t Tell” He needs Congress for that. > [@](#): > > And other than wanting to fund more faith-based initiatives. There is nothing religious about this. Do you actually know anything FBCI? Do you know what it actually does? I think there’s a great deal of misunderstanding about it. It does not fund religious activities (and I defended it under Bush). > [@](#): > > And other than using religious rhetoric fairly frequently. Irrelevant. > [@](#): > > You know who that sounds like? George Bush. Bush supported an anti-gay amendment. Obama does not. Bush thought “the jury was still out” on evolution. Bush thought Jesus told him to invade Iraq. The comparison is bullshit. > [@](#): > > This just goes to show you that partisanship allows you to see what you want to see. Bush was a ‘fundy’, a ‘religious wacko’, and evil for his opposition to gay marriage, and Obama is damned near a perfect secular president. Obama opposes _legislation_ against SSM. Bush supported that it. That’s a huge difference. So is the fact that Obama supports civil unions. Their positions are not comparable. Saying that “Obama is against same-sex marriage” shows a very superficial knowledge of his position. Essemtially his position is like those politicians who say that they’re personally opposed to abortion, but think it should be a choice. Obama is “pro choice” on SSM. He presents his positiopn as a personal opinion, not as a legislative one. We also know that he doesn’t really mean even that much of it. He couldn’t have gotten elected if he said he supported SSM. Bush not only meant it, but wanted to deface the Constitution with an Amendment against it. As for partisan lenses, I defended FBCI under Bush. There’s nothing wrong with it. It’s not a good example to raise if you’re trying to say that Obama is theocratic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-finally-chose-a-church-thank-god/501383.md?page=2)