# Obama has his own fucking flag!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 18, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513 "2008-10-18T10:05:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/181 "2008-10-20T21:55:30Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> Oh, and you know, looking at “Flags of the World”, there’s all sorts of specialized flags: ensigns and jacks and flags for harbor pilots and special flags for various officials, but I don’t actually see any “fucking flags”. You’d think a useful concept like that would have caught on more. They could display it over the White House or on Air Force One or on the Presidential limo, as needed.
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> “If this flag is a-flyin’, don’t come a-pryin’.”

I thought that was a necktie on the knob.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/182 "2008-10-20T22:03:03Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> I thought that was a necktie on the knob.

Yeah, but we’re talking about the _President of the United States_ here, Leader of The Free World. A special fucking flag would be way classier.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/183 "2008-10-20T22:06:14Z")

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> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> You rang? [Kentucky: United We Stand, Divided We Fall](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Kentucky.svg). We’re also very huggy. Hug your pioneer today.

Let’s not just put the blame on you Kentuckians.

Here’s my ranking –

A. High fives! go to – Maryland (love that traditional heraldry!), South Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, New Mexico (very iconic!), Alaska

B. A for effort (but major flaw in execution) goes to – California (the bear design is not simple enough for a flag, and flags don’t need captions), Arizona (nice try, but it’s just fugly), Hawaii (almost fugly), Arkansas (fugly)

C. No creativity at all, but at least it’s not a seal goes to – North Carolina, Mississippi, Texas, Colorado, Alabama

D. Okay, at least you added _something_ to the background or altered the seal to make it more suitable for a flag – Rhode Island, Missouri, Florida, West Virginia, Wyoming, Delaware, Georgia

D-minus. Okay, it’s a seal, but at least you put in the effort to choose a color other than _blue_ – Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Washington

F. State seal (or what looks like one) on a blue field. You suck. – New Hampshire, Virginia, New York, Vermont, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Kansas, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Oregon

F-minus. Mississippi, because of the Confederate flag. Otherwise you’d have gotten a “C.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/184 "2008-10-20T22:11:04Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> Yeah, but we’re talking about the _President of the United States_ here, Leader of The Free World. A special fucking flag would be way classier.

Well, how about [this one](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ICS_Tango.svg)? The secondary meaning is “Keep clear of me; I am engaged in pair trawling.” 😃

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/185 "2008-10-20T22:17:46Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> I thought that was a necktie on the knob.

If you can get close enough to see his knob, you don’t need no fuckin’ flag.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/186 "2008-10-20T22:25:28Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> Yeah, but we’re talking about the _President of the United States_ here, Leader of The Free World. A special fucking flag would be way classier.

How about a tie with the Presidential Seal on it, then? Or maybe one with the sillouttes of JFK and Bill Clinton on it? 😉

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**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/187 "2008-10-21T00:17:19Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> How about a tie with the Presidential Seal on it, then? Or maybe one with the sillouttes of JFK and Bill Clinton on it? 😉

I favor something simpler: a field of blue with a splash of white.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/188 "2008-10-21T01:49:35Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> F. State seal (or what looks like one) on a blue field. You suck. – New Hampshire, Virginia, New York, Vermont, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Kansas, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Oregon

Once again, let me repeat that New York’s flag is a direct middle finger to the British. The state seal is a copy of the flag, not vice versa.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/189 "2008-10-21T01:51:34Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Once again, let me repeat that New York’s flag is a direct middle finger to the British. The state seal is a copy of the flag, not vice versa.

That’s really irrelevant, so far as I’m concerned. Fine-lined, detailed images like that are simply inappropriate for flags. As a flag, it sucks.

And, I might add, if Wyoming had left off the seal, it would have gotten at least a B. The bison silhouette is distinctive.

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**Author:** ![laughingboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@laughingboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laughingboy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/190 "2008-10-21T01:59:28Z")

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Louisiana’s flag looks like it should appear next to the words “Draw Me!” on a matchbook cover.

BTW, awesome whoosh **Liberal**.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/191 "2008-10-21T03:14:47Z")

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Oh, as a flag, it sucks, but at least it has a distinctive meaning behind it. And apparently, it was good enough to work back when regimental flags meant something. (eg, needed to be recognizable.)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/192 "2008-10-21T10:20:24Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> That’s the arms of Calvert quartered with Crossland, the honored and noble arms of the Lords Baltimore.

Ugliness with a pedigree!

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/193 "2008-10-21T12:49:56Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> C. No creativity at all, but at least it’s not a seal goes to – North Carolina, Mississippi, Texas, Colorado, Alabama
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> F-minus. Mississippi, because of the Confederate flag. Otherwise you’d have gotten a “C.”

Hey! You graded us twice !! :dubious:  
😛

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/194 "2008-10-21T13:11:58Z")

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> [@NinetyWt](#):
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> Hey! You graded us twice !! :dubious:  
> 😛

Grade early, grade often.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/195 "2008-10-21T14:17:29Z")

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> [@NinetyWt](#):
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> Hey! You graded us twice !! :dubious:

That just shows you I meant what I said. 😃

Also, Oregon’s reverse gets a “B.” The beaver is distinctive, but it’s badly rendered.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/196 "2008-10-21T14:34:53Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> The beaver is distinctive, but it’s badly rendered.

Yeah, but beaver fat tastes terrible anyway.

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