# Obama has his own fucking flag!!!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 18, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513 "2008-10-18T10:05:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/101 "2008-10-18T23:43:02Z")

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They are, of course, plows. Prosperity (represented by the goddess Fortuna) is holding a cornucopia, while Liberty is holding a Liberty cap. 3 plows because NJ was the 3rd state to join the Union. The horse head is obviously a nod to the primary State Contractor. The 6 bars on the helm signify the 6 bars per person ratio required by the state constitution (see previous reference to “plowed”).

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/102 "2008-10-19T00:02:54Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> You know, I’m always sticking up for Jersey on this board, but…
> 
> Good Og! Is that thing ass-ugly or what? Nice piss-yellow background. And are those _sleds_ in the middle? Oy vey.

It looks like someone lobbed a grenade in a pile of bad clipart. Same goes for ours too. And a few others… You know who you are!

Also, Washington? Can we get anymore literal?

South Carolina looks like something out of the middle-east.

The best flags are the most simple, like NM, AK, AL, and even TX… Although I can’t shake the feeling that’s supposed to be a reticle on a gunsight at the NM border patrol.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/103 "2008-10-19T00:10:31Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Of course it’s not Obama’s flag.
> 
> [Obviously, it’s his cape.](http://www.ruppsworld.com/prodimages/R/rssupObama_big.jpg)

That’s awesome.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/104 "2008-10-19T00:14:04Z")

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> [@NinetyWt](#):
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> I thought they were plows!

Oh yeah. I think you’re right. Garden State, blah blah blah.

Perhaps we should redesign the flag to better represent contemporary New Jersey. I think **silenus** is on the right track…

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/105 "2008-10-19T00:29:42Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> Damn and hell and all sorts of shame on me: I’ve done it again. Why can’t I spell anymore? I’ve got years of practice. I know the difference between those two words and I can never spell either one of them when under pressure. Thanks for pointing it out. I obviously meant it was because they were riding horses. I think.

> **[20061002 - Least I Could Do](https://leasticoulddo.com/comic/20061002/)**
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> Read More

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/106 "2008-10-19T00:58:22Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Nah, Maryland’s is worse, because _nobody_ should put that color combination together on one flag. Even when I was a kid, I thought it was garish.

That’s the arms of Calvert quartered with Crossland, the honored and noble arms of the Lords Baltimore.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/107 "2008-10-19T01:01:02Z")

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Perhaps America’s best state flag. Very distinctive.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/108 "2008-10-19T02:01:53Z")

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> [@Paul in Saudi](#):
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> Perhaps America’s best state flag. Very distinctive.

Yes, if “best” were a synonym for “ugliest”, I’d agree with you.

Let’s face it, the state flags, as a whole, are pretty lame. The Japanese prefecture flags are waaaaay better.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/109 "2008-10-19T02:32:52Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Yes, if “best” were a synonym for “ugliest”, I’d agree with you.

No respect for heraldry! Maryland is probably the only state whose flag is registered with the English college of heraldry. (DC’s flag would be, too, as the noble and honorable arms of the Washington family.)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/110 "2008-10-19T02:33:01Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Of course it’s not Obama’s flag.
> 
> [Obviously, it’s his cape.](http://www.ruppsworld.com/prodimages/R/rssupObama_big.jpg)

I wonder, however, if he suffers from the same problem as [this fellow?](http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/superman-bulging-out-everywhere-except-where-it-counts.jpg?w=372&h=522)

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/111 "2008-10-19T02:36:59Z")

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Yeh, most state flags are an exercise in this sort of dialogue,

“Hey all, let’s see how much obscure, symbolistic crap we can cram into one crest.”

“Totally, and don’t forget the latin! Lots of latin!”

“For sure! Wait – what about navy and red?!”

“Oh gawd, yes. Loooove navy and red. Can we get some more animals in there?”

“Are you kidding, we already have an elk, deer, beaver, eagle, snake, albatross, and some kind of large bovine. Hrmmm… Well, maybe there _is_ room for some Indian or pioneer with a weapon.”

“A musket?”

“I don’t think Indian’s used muskets.”

“No, I was talking about the pioneer. And, Indian is not the preferred nomenclature. It’s Native American.”

“Whatever. Just give the bastard a musket.”

“But, we’re gonna need some stars too.”

“Just shove them in there around the Great Seal.”

“Deal…”

“Now what?”

“Well,”

“C’mon, ‘well’ what?”

“Well, I’m thinking a rising sun, over a river, with a horn of plenty, and some more of those Ind–err–Native Americans!”

“…”

[sheepishly] “No?”

“_…are you kidding?_ It’s like you’re inside my head!”

[all in unison: SQUEEE!]  
That’s what designed-by-committee gets you. GRRRrrrr.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/112 "2008-10-19T02:41:10Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> I wonder, however, if he suffers from the same problem as [this fellow?](http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/superman-bulging-out-everywhere-except-where-it-counts.jpg?w=372&h=522)

Not if he fits the stereotype.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/113 "2008-10-19T02:57:27Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> I call foul. Any real Marylander would have suggested [jousting.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland#Sports)

Oh, well that’s good then. Because that flag looks like a knight on horseback jousting with a NASCAR car.

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/114 "2008-10-19T03:00:08Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Sorry about that–I have failure of empathy for rabbits and that just makes me laugh my ass off… Then again, I once watched my dog eat a small bunny in one gulp so I’m a tad jaded about them.
> 
> Here in Oregon, we got a [big old beaver](http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/flags/or_flag.htm) on our flag!
> 
> Oh, and that’s totally a bong, just needs a “Grafix” sticker on the side!

Nice Beaver!

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/115 "2008-10-19T04:02:38Z")

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> [@Caveat\_lector\_1](#):
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> Georgia’s flag was all [confederatey](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_State_of_Georgia_(1956-2001).svg). Then it got turned into, and I quote\*, [“a Denny’s placemat”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_State_of_Georgia_(2001-2003).svg). Now it’s [pretty generic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Georgia_(U.S._state).svg), but that is still better.

You forgot [this one](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/35101).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/116 "2008-10-19T04:37:05Z")

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> [@Santo\_Rugger](#):
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> What? Our flag is awesome! We even modeled our rugby jerseys after it, as we play in the state capitol.

Your rugby team plays _[in here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Capitol)_?

This was the most awesome whoosh in the history of whooshiness.

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/117 "2008-10-19T05:06:02Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> Nice Beaver!

People, people, it’s only page three, and we’re already getting far, far off the main point of this thread, which is of course to make fun of **aruvqan** until he gives us a reason not to.

😃

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/118 "2008-10-19T05:17:18Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> No respect for heraldry! Maryland is probably the only state whose flag is registered with the English college of heraldry. (DC’s flag would be, too, as the noble and honorable arms of the Washington family.)

So what? Who cares about heraldry? Maryland’s flag is probably the only flag registered with the English College of Eye Bleeding, too.

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**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thalion)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/119 "2008-10-19T05:43:32Z")

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Seriously. That was the most stupendous, colossal, amazing Whoosh ever! I am so happy to have popped in just to see that.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/120 "2008-10-19T06:04:57Z")

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Texas wins. Hands down.

Followed by: Alaska, New Mexico, California (it’s got a BEAR!), Arizona, southern flags that tastefully reference the Stars and Bars, Oklahoma, most of the rest, blue flags with a seal, and the abomination from Maryland.

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