# Obama has his own fucking flag!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 18, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513 "2008-10-18T10:05:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![paffinity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@paffinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paffinity)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/121 "2008-10-19T06:12:35Z")

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I think I found a picture that made the Maryland flag [even more fucking confusing.](http://www.sos.state.md.us/images/2flags.jpg)

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 I never noticed how god awful my state's flag is even compared to other state flags until this thread. And who the hell names their territory Crossland?

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**Author:** ![Squirrel\_Pot\_Pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Squirrel\_Pot\_Pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squirrel_Pot_Pie)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/122 "2008-10-19T06:20:21Z")

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Bwahahaha! Holy crap, this thread alone is worth the price of membership, (for like a bazillion people!) Obviously I don’t know you **aruvqan** , but c’mon dude fess up - you two cooked this up together, _right_? Well played! :::snort:::

As usual I’m late to the party; here I thought that Obama’s fucking flag, scented with the springtime freshness of hope, was a proposed craft activity for kindergartners.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/123 "2008-10-19T06:28:38Z")

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I think the plan calls for rounding up all the guns first, and then start in indoctrinating kindergartners. Priorities, you understand.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/124 "2008-10-19T06:30:32Z")

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One of the main reasons we’re all voting for the guy is he’s hired some kickass graphic designers. The Ohio flag is bullshit compared to his current logo. Tacky, tacky, tacky. Obama’s the Tim Gunn and Jonathan Ive of candidates.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/125 "2008-10-19T07:23:16Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> [20061002 - Least I Could Do](http://leasticoulddo.com/comic/20061002)

Not a bad strip - new to me.

Anyhoo, this particular pair is easy to keep apart. Think of “chivalry” (same root) as being the code of a knight on horseback, and you should be good to go. (In Brittany_un calvaire_ is a wayside shrine - it has a guy on a cross, not on a horse.)

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/126 "2008-10-19T11:07:50Z")

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Well, this thread has made something clear to me. There are two kinds of people: those who can appreciate the bold beauty of [our noble banner](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2097/2515386842_dda6ab4551.jpg?v=0), and riff-raff.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/127 "2008-10-19T13:30:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I think the plan calls for rounding up all the guns first, and then start in indoctrinating kindergartners. Priorities, you understand.

Huh. I had just assumed that one wouldn’t care to attempt to indoctrinate armed kindergartners. Especially if they need a nap.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/128 "2008-10-19T13:35:25Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> You know, I’m always sticking up for Jersey on this board, but…
> 
> Good Og! Is that thing ass-ugly or what? Nice piss-yellow background. And are those _sleds_ in the middle? Oy vey.

It’s not that bad. It looks very much like [New York’s flag](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_New_York.svg).

Only not so yellow-y or Godfather horse head-y.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/129 "2008-10-19T13:53:22Z")

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Love this thread. I imagined \*\*arquan \*\*(sp) typing furiously and thinking, “I’ll show _them_.” 😃

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/130 "2008-10-19T14:06:58Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Not a bad strip - new to me.
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> Anyhoo, this particular pair is easy to keep apart. Think of “chivalry” (same root) as being the code of a knight on horseback, and you should be good to go. (In Brittany_un calvaire_ is a wayside shrine - it has a guy on a cross, not on a horse.)

Well, that clears it right up for me. Thanks. And the comic strip wasn’t all that bad at all.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/131 "2008-10-19T14:10:42Z")

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I’ve designed a McCain campaign flag. It looks like the Alabama state flag except it doesn’t have any red bars on it.

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/132 "2008-10-19T14:29:48Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> Maryland is probably the only state whose flag is registered with the English college of heraldry.

Maryland is also the only state whose state song is set to the tune of a Christmas carol. Unique doesn’t necessarily mean better.

Which reminds me of when the push for Pennsylvania to get a state song started back in the '80s. The best arguments against and for getting a state song were best summed up as follows:  
AGAINST: Only one other state doesn’t have a state song, so it’s fairly unique.  
FOR: The other songless state is _New Jersey,_ for christ’s sake.

And thus did Pennsylvania get a state song, and it was lame. On the other hand, how many other states have a state bird that tastes good with cranberry sauce?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/133 "2008-10-19T14:37:27Z")

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I think **aruvqan’s** whoosh traveled so fast, that it surpassed C and send him back in time, where he was promptly eaten by a dinosaur.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/134 "2008-10-19T14:38:51Z")

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Gentlemen, I bring you the results of the 2001 North American Vexillological Association [Survey of the best and worst flags of subnational jurisdictions (states, provinces, federal districts, territories, Associate States) of the USA and Canada](http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/State&Provincial%20Survey%202001/surveyresults.htm).

This was back in the days of the “placemat” flag in Georgia, mind you. Of course, the idea was to approach it from a \*\*vexillology \*\*POV, rather than from a marketing or a year-2000-design-sensibility POV, so notice how there is Great Justice done to the Maryland and NM flags (in spite of what Doper minds might opine) and much well-earned derision for State-seal-on-blue-field _with the damn name of the state actually printed on it!!_(c’mon… if you have to spell out in bold letters what the flag is supposed to stand for, it means you recognize it’s indistinct). That’s why Maryland ranks high – its’directly referential to the history of the place, AND you _KNOW_ that \*\*no \*\*regiment would mistakenly march behind/against it in a fog of battle thinking it’s somewhere’s other than Maryland. Of course, unless you know heraldic blazoning terminology it’s hopeless to try to describe it…  
Meanwhile, I believe **aruqvan** was whooshed clear right off the deck (someone alert the Coast Guard). But I enjoyed more the whoosh on those who got the idea that this was an alternate “Obama” flag. Cecil once said, this is the result of two decades of mediocre-quality weed: a paranoid nation.

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**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/135 "2008-10-19T15:17:27Z")

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I think \*\*aruqvan \*\*is just setting you all up for a counter-whoosh by believing that he did that sincerely! Don’t you feel stupid now?!

Well that or he just retired from the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/136 "2008-10-19T15:32:18Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> It’s not that bad. It looks very much like [New York’s flag](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_New_York.svg).

Whoah! I think that’s Supergirl on the left!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/137 "2008-10-19T16:49:20Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Whoah! I think that’s Supergirl on the left!

If she’s turned Fundamentalist Mormon, maybe. Otherwise…[not so much](http://www.comicobsessions.com/CO5AspenPrints/Print_DC-Supergirl-Pink.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/138 "2008-10-19T16:58:11Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> It’s not that bad. It looks very much like [New York’s flag](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_New_York.svg).
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> Only not so yellow-y or Godfather horse head-y.

Welll, that’s nice of you to say and all but…ARE YOU BLIND??

And those **NAVA** folks are high on drugs or something.\* Yeah, some of their picks are good, but any list that puts Maryland in the top 10 and New Jersey _not_ in the bottom is clearly a list compiled by a group that dwells in some sort of vexillological ivory tower and is utterly unconcerned with good taste and the state of my retinas.

\*No offense meant to our own **Nava** , unless she took her name from the North American Vexillogical Society, in which case, she’s high on drugs too.

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/139 "2008-10-19T17:04:50Z")

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The [story](http://www.snopes.com/lost/bearflag.asp) behind California’s flag is a classic.

Basically, a bunch of rebels, led by a certain Captain Bartlett, decide they want their own republic, and take over Sonoma. They quickly realize they need a flag to raise. Captain Bartlett helpfully suggests a symbol of California’s abundance- and his own fortune. You and I know Mr. Bartlett for something a bit more mundane than rebellions. He’s they guy who came up with the Bartlett pear.

They quickly mocked up a flag and sent it to the California equivalent of Betsey Ross. But their handwriting wasn’t great, so when they got their flag back it had a majestic _bear_ across the front instead of a majestic **pear**.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-his-own-fucking-flag/468513/140 "2008-10-19T19:31:26Z")

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Whooshed by Snopes!

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