# Obama has to dress down, he's busy cleaning up your puke! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642 "2009-02-05T23:51:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/101 "2009-02-06T15:43:31Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Boy, nothin’ gets you people cranked up like the suggestion that someone should dress nicely. It’s telling, that is. No, I think what’s getting people cranked up is the suggestion that you can’t be good at your job if you don’t dress up. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/102 "2009-02-06T15:52:01Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > No, I think what’s getting people cranked up is the suggestion that you can’t be good at your job if you don’t dress up. You can of course point to where I said any such thing? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/103 "2009-02-06T15:54:54Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You can of course point to where I said any such thing? I surely can. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There are going to be lots of government leaders around the world guaging Obama. The extent to which they cooperate with him or not – and the extent to which they try to take advantage of him or push him around – will depend largely on the impression they get of the seriousness and gravitas he projects. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/104 "2009-02-06T16:07:13Z")
That’s quite a tortured bit of extrapolation there. The fact that people have to distort what I say into something completely different and then argue against that means that I must be making good points, I guess. Still, it would be nice if I only had to argue about the things I’ve actually said. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/105 "2009-02-06T16:10:31Z")
“Well, we weren’t planning on invading Taiwan, but that Obama guy never wears a coat in the office. So we had to. Communism!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/106 "2009-02-06T16:10:39Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Or decided to get physical with the German chancellor? I think we’ve hit recursion here. But I feel confident that on the list of “Things to do to be taken seriously as a world leader”, referring to the head of one of the world’s nuclear (and energy) superpowers as “Pootie-Poot”\* probably does not appear. \*Although I believe Putin didn’t care ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/107 "2009-02-06T16:13:39Z")
Does no one here have grandparents who blather on about the good old days? Do you actually \*engage \*them on this shit? Or do you just smile and nod and “uh huh” like a sane person with a sense of futility? Just askin’. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/108 "2009-02-06T16:15:09Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, and I’ll bet he was on time the next time! > > If I were president, I wouldn’t want to be holding up a meeting of very busy people undoubtedly on a tight schedule (let alone my own) waiting for some member or another of my Cabinet to finally getting around to showing up. > > I think it was a good lesson for him. ONE-THIRD OF THE TIME THE MOTHERFUCKER WAS ON VACATION! Where the hell does he get off judging anyone for tardiness! Was he pissed that Colin being five minutes late delayed him getting to the ranch to rustle some brush?! You’re just taking a stupid position to get people riled up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/109 "2009-02-06T16:26:13Z")
No, he really means it. Don’t get him started about spats. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/110 "2009-02-06T16:30:10Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > We’re not talking about the space in the White House where Obama lives – we’re talking about the Executive Office of The United States’ government. > > Reagan & Bush had sufficient respect for the Oval Office that they wouldn’t enter it sans coat and tie. I will assume you haven’t yet looked at that slideshow with photos of both Bush and Reagan working in the Oval Office in shirtsleeves. Here it is again: > **[Bush Jacketless In Oval Office: Photo Uncovered After Bush Chief Of Staff...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bush-jacketless-in-oval-o_n_164513)** > > Bush Jacketless In Oval Office: Photo Uncovered After Bush Chief Of Staff Slams Obama's Informal Appearance (SLIDESHOW) Not only is Bush working in the Oval Office in shirtsleeves, his shirt looks all wrinkled and disheveled. Not only is Reagan working in the Oval Office in shirtsleeves, it’s not even a white shirt, it’s red! AND, gasp, he’s not even wearing a tie! Ford’s there too, working in the Oval Office in shirtsleeves. Why are these Republican presidents disrespecting the Executive Office of The United States’ government? ps, Card’s an ass. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/111 "2009-02-06T16:36:54Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > ps, Card’s an ass. No, Card’s a 'tard. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/112 "2009-02-06T16:38:09Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > dress nicely. There is no universal objective standard for ‘nicely’. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/113 "2009-02-06T16:41:24Z")
If Starving Artist refuses now to recant and apologize, then he is a certified troll. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/114 "2009-02-06T16:41:28Z")
“Andrew Tard, George W. Bush’s mentally challenged Chief of Staff, today scathingly criticized the Obama’s White House for undermining the Constitution by a lax dress code, which permitted certain members of the executive branch to remove their suit jackets briefly on occasion while conducting official government business, thereby violating certain Constitutionally mandated directives about Oval Office dress codes…” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/115 "2009-02-06T16:42:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > No, he really means it. Don’t get him started about spats. Things have truly gone to hell in this country (that’s right, I said hell!) since Ozzie Nelson stopped wearing a monocle and a diamond stickpin. Right, **SA**? > [@](#): > > I must be making good points, I guess Wrong, you don’t even get what the discussion is _about_. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/116 "2009-02-06T16:44:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Boy, nothin’ gets you people cranked up like the suggestion that someone should dress nicely. It’s telling, that is. See. This sort of reality disconnect is why you guys don’t win elections any more. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/117 "2009-02-06T16:55:12Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > If Starving Artist refuses now to recant and apologize, then he is a certified troll. Well, what’s right is right. I hereby retract, in light of the photos clearly showing my beloved Pubbie presidents jacketless (but still with cuffs fastened and ties in place, it should be noted :D, save for one pic of Reagan where he was clearly en route to or coming from his home in California), my assertions that they held to a more formal dress code in the Oval Office than does Obama. Clearly my information in this regard was not factual and I do apologize. ---
**Author:** ![xanthous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/53a042/32.png) [@xanthous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xanthous)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/118 "2009-02-06T16:55:45Z")
> [@atomicbadgerrace](#): > > I don’t give a shit if Obama strolls into the Oval Office wearing his boxers and a Snuggie. I may never stop giggling at this one. From now on, THIS is the way I’m going to picture Obama in the Oval Office- rawkin’ the Snuggie! ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/119 "2009-02-06T17:05:22Z")
Didn’t pretend President Bartlet wear Notre Dame sweatshirts in the pretend Oval Office without anyone getting upset? 😃 My more serious comment is to rebuke Andy Card for saying that the White House and/or US President represents the Constitution. Since when? The Constitution needs no representation. It stands for itself, doesn’t it? The POTUS is the head of just one of the three branches enumerated in the Constitution, isn’t that right? I’m no strict constructionist or originalist, but I would think that everyone could agree on that much. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-has-to-dress-down-hes-busy-cleaning-up-your-puke/484642/120 "2009-02-06T17:05:24Z")
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