# Obama = Hitler. The Complete Saga \[edited thread title\]

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 10, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898 "2010-05-10T11:59:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/21 "2010-05-20T20:42:24Z")

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He’s back, folks.

After a series of letters to the editor condemning Mr. Ritter (and a few in his support) he has responded!

[http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/522022.html?nav=5007](http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/522022.html?nav=5007)

Just thought I’d share the ongoing drama with you all.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/22 "2010-05-20T21:00:14Z")

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Plagiarized? Really?

What makes you think there’s another newspaper anywhere in the country that would publish such drivel?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/23 "2010-05-20T21:43:09Z")

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Frankly, I’m amazed that any would. And it’s the sort of thing that set off a faint ‘I’ve heard this before’ sense, if you get me.

Now, of course, we get to enjoy his backpedalling.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/24 "2010-05-20T23:01:23Z")

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Hitler had a dog named Obama, and Obama had a dog named Hitler. True story.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/25 "2010-05-21T03:50:51Z")

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The second letter of Barack is A. The first letter of Adolf is A. Connect the dots, people.

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/26 "2010-05-21T04:11:22Z")

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Barack has 6 letters. Obama has 5 letters.

Hitler has 6 letters. Adolf has 5 letters.

I’m convinced.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/27 "2010-05-21T04:17:03Z")

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You know who else rolled his eyes?

Stalin.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/28 "2010-05-21T06:19:13Z")

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Hitler had a moustache. Obama doesn’t. It’s a transparent attempt to avoid reminding voters of the many physical similarities between the two. Likewise Obma’s altered his height and skin color.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/29 "2010-05-22T00:37:39Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hitler had a moustache. Obama doesn’t. It’s a transparent attempt to avoid reminding voters of the many physical similarities between the two. Likewise Obma’s altered his height and skin color.

It’s true. And another little known fact is that Obama was white until 1993.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/30 "2010-11-15T14:35:25Z")

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OK, some of you may remember the first time I started a thread on [Obama=Hitler Guy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562615) about six months ago. He claims to be some form of student of history and is now sending in letters to the editor in our local, small town newspaper. I am tempted to reply so he and I can get a sort of Adams-Jefferson thing going her.

He and his wife have become quite a local power bloc due to the recent elections thought I, for one, am doubtful about his efficacy. However, he has made it clear that he plans to run for something local in the next few years.

Anyway, enjoy. And I’ll join in the fun if this gets enough traction.

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> _Originally published by Obama=Hitler guy_
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> Seemingly impervious to the lessons of history, the current administration appears determined to repeat the economic mistakes of their predecessors. The president’s unwillingness to curb government spending is a product of his administration’s fundamental misunderstanding of the lessons of the Great Depression. This White House clearly accepts the mythical progressive version of history which attributes the 1929 stock market crash to President Herbert Hoover’s purported failure to provide proper market oversight.
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> [… snip …]
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> Today we face a situation similar to that of 1920-21. To date, the current White House has chosen to follow the failed Keynesian path taken by the Roosevelt administration. Despite repeated calls from Democrats and Republicans, Obama has refused to extend the Bush tax cuts beyond 2010. Instead of reducing spending, the president has implemented a seemingly endless series of bailouts, stimulus packages, and public works projects aimed at “priming the pump.” This unprecedented growth in spending has left America with a stalled jobs market, the likelihood of rampant inflation, and even the possible collapse of the dollar. It is high time the White House looked beyond a mistaken progressive interpretation of the Great Depression to the find the real solutions offered by the experience of our forefathers.
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> Kevin Ritter
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> Marietta

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/31 "2010-11-15T14:47:52Z")

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The most glaringly obvious error is that Roosevelt did not have any Keynesian Advisors, since Keynes didn’t publish until 1936.

Either Obama=Hitler doesn’t know what he’s talking about since The New Deal began three years before Keynes even published, or Roosevelt had time traveling advisers. Personally, I’m hoping for the second option, because that would be too cool.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/32 "2010-11-15T15:44:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Obama Hitler Guy]  
Productivity improved, wages grew, the stock market tripled, and the middle class strengthened while average citizens began to purchase former luxury items like cars and radios. Rather than the nearly decade-long depression of the 1930s, the “Roaring Twenties” were a time of unprecedented prosperity in America.  
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Surely the Roaring Twenties were a period of “unprecedented prosperity” that was a house of cards based on overstretched credit, the proceeds of which were based on a bubble stock market? Which happened under Coolidge’s distinctly non-Keynesean policies.

Furthermore, if, as most people agree, it was WWII that got the US completely out of depression, well you couldn’t really get much more Keynesean than hand-over-fist war spending, now could you?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/33 "2010-11-15T16:12:25Z")

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Quoting this in its entirety seems problematical from a copyright point of view, so I deleted everything but the first and last paragraphs. If this is available online, feel free to provide a link to that.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/34 "2010-11-15T16:18:27Z")

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Erratum: “based on” \> “sunk into”.

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**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/35 "2010-11-15T16:37:02Z")

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Here’s something: stimulating demand through tax cuts is no less a Keynesian stimulus. When the government takes on debt in order to boost demand, it’s a Keynesian stimulus- whether through taking in less tax revenue, or spending more money.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/36 "2010-11-15T16:42:21Z")

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Sigh.

[History Offers Economic Guidance For Today](http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/531442/History-offers-economic-guidance-for-today.html?nav=5007) by Obama=Hitler Guy

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/37 "2010-11-15T17:58:00Z")

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> [@Walmarticus](#):
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> Here’s something: stimulating demand through tax cuts is no less a Keynesian stimulus. When the government takes on debt in order to boost demand, it’s a Keynesian stimulus- whether through taking in less tax revenue, or spending more money.

Good point. Even the Tea Party accepts Keynes – the argument is whether it’s better to cut taxes or to increase spending. Keynes is just basic supply and demand.

As for regulations – _Wall Street_ was perfectly OK with the reforms passed in the New Deal. Without the SEC, no one was going to invest with them. Rules are needed. Look at football (or whatever the poster’s favorite sport is): would he seriously argue that that all rules be removed? Let people rough the passer? Line up offsides? What you have is chaos, not a sport, and it’s the same for an economy.

On Wall Streeet without rules, millions will have their livelihood crushed to benefit a small oligarchy.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/38 "2010-11-24T21:27:34Z")

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Not very long ago I posted that a guy I refer to as Obama=Hitler guy had written another long [Letter to our local paper.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=585648)

Well, I sent them a response late last week after doing some research and they [printed it today.](http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/531742/Viewpoint-author-twisted-historical-references.html?nav=5007)

First off, from the last thread, **Maus McGill** , I stole your time travelling economists line. Forgive me but it was too good to pass up.

I truly hope this turns into a war of words in the paper. He clearly believes himself to be the intellectual center of the local 9-12 group and enjoys the attention it brings him. And I’d enjoy the back and forth.

Though I suppose we’ll see how I like it when he’s taking shots at me next time!

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/39 "2010-11-24T21:40:25Z")

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You, sir, have verily put the “smack” in “smackdown.”

Nicely.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-hitler-the-complete-saga-edited-thread-title/538898/40 "2010-11-24T21:49:14Z")

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What an erudite and well written response.

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