# Obama is a Negro **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 27, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923 "2011-04-27T18:05:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/41 "2011-04-28T00:07:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > 1. I think she was not born in the US, so the joke about “cracker” on her birth certificate is kind of moot, as that is an Americanism. Just a point of clarification, although I could be wrong about her place of birth. You are not wrong. She was born in Moldova (then part of the USSR) in 1960, emigrated to Israel at age 21, and to the US six years later. > [@](#): > > 1. I wasn’t sure if people knew the “African” on the certificate was referring to Obama Sr, and not the current prez. One would hope so, since there is no spot for the race of the newborn, but there is for each parent. > [@](#): > > 1. No, I’m not defending her. I’m saying that it actually does make sense for Obama Sr to have asked for “African” to be put in for race since “Negro” is not what he’d call himself in his homeland. It does make sense. But that may have been a standard entry for blacks in Hawaii at that time. Perhaps one of our ~50-year-old SDMB members from the mainland who happen to be differently ethnicitalized from us can enlighten us as to what’s on their original birth certificate. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/42 "2011-04-28T00:15:46Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > But she is Haole! Wait, that’s Orly. And I’m being dyslexic. I see what you did there. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/43 "2011-04-28T00:16:34Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > On my cousin’s FB page, he wrote that he wishes she’d just be honest and say that the birth certificate should read _nigger._ That is actually the word I believe she would like to use, but I was raised better than that. Well, i wasn’t actually but I try to shake that off now that I am an adult. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/44 "2011-04-28T00:19:04Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > You are not wrong. She was born in Moldova (then part of the USSR) in 1960, emigrated to Israel at age 21, and to the US six years later. Her real certificate therefore should say “Russki” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/45 "2011-04-28T00:23:44Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I want to know who Obama was in his past lives. I’ve read that he has waking memories of and openly boasts about his lives as Reinhard Heydrich, Sawney Bean, Elizabeth Bathory and the Empress Theodora and says in his next life he’ll unleash a hoarde of zombies and demons. … Truly, he is not an _ordinary_ Negro! 😉 CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/46 "2011-04-28T00:24:57Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > It does make sense. But that may have been a standard entry for blacks in Hawaii at that time. Perhaps one of our ~50-year-old SDMB members from the mainland who happen to be differently ethnicitalized from us can enlighten us as to what’s on their original birth certificate. The reason that the birth certificate identifies his father as African is not because that was the standard but because that’s what the parents said. From [Factcheck.org](http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/): “why is Obama’s father’s race listed as “African”? Kurt Tsue at the DOH [Hawaii Department of Health] told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that ‘we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.’” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/47 "2011-04-28T00:27:15Z")
> [@howye](#): > > That is actually the word I believe she would like to use, but I was raised better than that. Well, i wasn’t actually but I try to shake that off now that I am an adult. Well, most of us Rhymers are black, so we’re allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/48 "2011-04-28T00:38:52Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] Well, most of us Rhymers are black [/QUOTE] Is that what’s on your birth certificates or are you just going on hearsay? ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/49 "2011-04-28T00:56:17Z")
As bizarre as this issue is, what she says rings true. No one was using the term “African” when Obama was born. Black, Negro and Colored were the descriptors of the day. Does she have any other examples of birth certificates from the same source? Unless or until she can nail down this thing, maybe she should just shut up. I think Obama should, on his last day in office, tell everyone he wasn’t and isn’t an American. He was voted into office illegally. And then say, “So what? What can you do about it now?” The man is the President. Personally I could care less where he was born. I’d be delighted if he was a mushroom at this point if he would fix the economy and get us out of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. So maybe he can’t fix the economy on his own. He could pull our military out of the ME. Do that, and he’s a successful President in my book. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/50 "2011-04-28T01:01:31Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The reason that the birth certificate identifies his father as African is not because that was the standard but because that’s what the parents said. From [Factcheck.org](http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/): “why is Obama’s father’s race listed as “African”? Kurt Tsue at the DOH [Hawaii Department of Health] told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that ‘we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.’” Hawai’i also probably has a unique issue surrounding race. People are so mixed, racially, that it would make sense to just put down whatever the parents say. I don’t suppose you could get away with that in the South in the 60s. > [@Frank](#): > > One would hope so, since there is no spot for the race of the newborn, but there is for each parent. Not everyone is going to know that. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/51 "2011-04-28T01:27:12Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > > [@Frank](#): > > > > One would hope so, since there is no spot for the race of the newborn, but there is for each parent. > > Not everyone is going to know that. Oh, come on, **John**. Are you doing your **Starving Artist** impersonation here, or what? Anybody who has even the mildest interest in this has had the picture of the document plastered all over the news today, and all they have to do is look at the fucking thing to know that. And so what? Orly Taitz? She’s gotten fired, fined, and told to fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/52 "2011-04-28T01:42:33Z")
Who the fuck is this tool? Just as I was about to award the Dick of the Day award to Donald J. Trump (as well as the token birther asshole on my local talk radio station), now I have to have the little inscription re-engraved. If my name was Orly Taitz, I’d try to live my life as quietly as possible, instead of drawing attention to myself. Were her parents fond of French airports? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/53 "2011-04-28T01:45:02Z")
What will happen when we get the first hispanic into the Oval Office as President? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/54 "2011-04-28T01:51:00Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > What will happen when we get the first hispanic into the Oval Office as President? Plastic Jesus on the dashboard of Air Force One? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/55 "2011-04-28T01:51:37Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > What will happen when we get the first hispanic into the Oval Office as President? He (or she) will have to show his Green Card to the Chief Justice before being sworn in. Then we’re cool with it. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/56 "2011-04-28T01:53:58Z")
[heh](http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/) ---
**Author:** ![Sapphirany](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Sapphirany](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapphirany)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/57 "2011-04-28T06:05:16Z")
I wish Snoop Dogg was the first black president… what a bust to have our “first black president” as Obama… I don’t know much about Obama or care to… I wanted him in office over the other guy, but come on man, you ain’t black!! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/58 "2011-04-28T06:21:00Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > You are not wrong. She was born in Moldova (then part of the USSR) in 1960, emigrated to Israel at age 21, and to the US six years later. I’m pretty sure she wasn’t born “Orly”, either. Orly’s a very Israeli name - Taitz was probably born an Olga. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/59 "2011-04-28T12:50:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’m pretty sure she wasn’t born “Orly”, either. Orly’s a very Israeli name - Taitz was probably born an Olga. You misspelled “fetid cuntrag”. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923/60 "2011-04-28T12:52:09Z")
> [@Sapphirany](#): > > I wish Snoop Dogg was the first black president.. what a bust to have our “first black president” as Obama.. I don’t know much about Obama or care to.. I wanted him in office over the other guy, but come on man, you ain’t black!! I’m thinking Ice T or Jay Z would be pretty cool too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-negro/579923.md?page=4)