# Obama is a terrorist. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154 "2008-01-19T15:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Surbey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@Surbey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surbey)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/41 "2008-01-20T09:01:59Z")
“Well Bill O’Reilly said it so it must be true…he wouldn’t say lies to us.” ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/42 "2008-01-20T16:47:13Z")
If Williams had noted the falsity of the rumors in asking his question he would be an agenda-driven liberal medialyzer. Actually, I don’t think that’s true, but I think Williams thinks that, which is evidence of the ultimate victory of the whole Left Wing Media meme. It was never targeted at us- it was targeted at the journalists. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/43 "2008-01-20T17:50:05Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] No, he’s his son. The rumor about McCain having an illegitimate black son was an error - it’s actually Cheney. There was a mixup because all bald white guys look alike. [/QUOTE] You realize, don’t you, that Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are, in fact, [eighth cousins](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21340764/). ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/44 "2008-01-20T18:51:16Z")
[QUOTE=Billdo] You realize, don’t you, that Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are, in fact, [eighth cousins](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21340764/). [/QUOTE] So what are you saying – Obama’s election would be creating/continuing another dynasty of sorts? ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/45 "2008-01-20T19:01:31Z")
Wait… so he’s _not_ going to swear in with a Koran? Well, he’s just lost my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/46 "2008-01-20T19:31:59Z")
[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting] So what are you saying – Obama’s election would be creating/continuing another dynasty of sorts? [/QUOTE] No, that an Obama Presidentcy would be owned by a zombi Strom Thurman. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/47 "2008-01-20T19:42:30Z")
[QUOTE=Bear\_Nenno] Wait… so he’s _not_ going to swear in with a Koran? Well, he’s just lost my vote. [/QUOTE] I’m a bit bothered by the fact that he was basically raised in a non-religious environment, and then found Christianity as an adult/late teenager. But I won’t hold it too much against him. I think there’s plenty of room for more rumors, though, just based on reading the short interview with Obama’s half-sister today in the NYT Sunday Magazine. Her name is Maya Soetoro-Ng, and she says she’s a Buddhist. Obama is clearly going to sell us out to Inida and China! What’'s kind of funny is that she sort of looks like a White version of Michelle Obama. I guess he also has a half-sister in Kenya, presumably through his father (Maya has the same mother as Barack). ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/48 "2008-01-21T03:47:51Z")
I had a 1966 labia last year. Didn’t smell too bad, but we took turns driving it, so it did smell like latex by the time I got to sit in the driver’s seat. > [@mhendo](#): > > (b) If the interviewer/moderator feels that he absolutely must reference it, he should be clear in asking his own question that the allegation is false. … At the very least, the question should be phrased so that the mendaciousness and dishonesty of the rumor comes before the rumor itself. Why don’t you scroll up and re-read the quoted portion of the question before other people start noticing and you embarrass yourself? ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/49 "2008-01-21T05:47:07Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I’m a bit bothered by the fact that he was basically raised in a non-religious environment, and then found Christianity as an adult/late teenager. But I won’t hold it too much against him. [/QUOTE] Doesn’t that kind of make him a better Christian, though? I was raised a Christian (Catholic actually, maybe that’s where they went wrong) and somewhere along the way I fell away. I have to imagine that Barack and others who found the faith later in life are much more committed than I would have been had I just kept going to church instead of doing what I now do on Sundays, which is mostly, watch _Meet the Press_ and hear people talking about going to church. So if I were a Christian, which I am not, I think I might find Barack more appealing because of his late start, not less. Know what I mean? I personally think that he’s kind of a political Christian, in that, he knows that he has no chance of being elected if he isn’t. In fact, maybe that’s what you were thinking. In which case, I agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/50 "2008-01-21T06:03:11Z")
> [@stolichnaya](#): > > Doesn’t that kind of make him a better Christian, though? Somehow I don’t think that’s what **John Mace** is worried about. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/51 "2008-01-21T06:36:49Z")
[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect] Why don’t you scroll up and re-read the quoted portion of the question before other people start noticing and you embarrass yourself? [/QUOTE] :o Well, consider me suitably embarrassed. I completely missed the line where Williams explicitly begins by stating that the information is false. Mea culpa. If they had to bring this issue up—something i’m still not convinced was necessary—then at least they went about it the right way. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/52 "2008-01-21T08:17:55Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] Conversely, are you suggesting that a candidate should only be asked about a rumor or piece of information once and that’s it? [/quote] I don’t really view that as a converse of the question I asked of you, but I’ll run with it. But if the rumor is debunked with factual information, or the piece of information clarified/contextualized upon the first asking, it strikes me that bringing it up again as though it hadn’t been satisfactorily answered seems like a skeezy trick to ensure the widest possible dissemination of the original rumor. If a journalist can be resourceful enough to find the original rumor to ask about, ISTM that he can be arsed to research whether it’s already been asked and answered. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > If so, I’m sure only a small proportion of the public will get wind of it, and many of those who do will forget about it shortly thereafter. See my remark above about ensuring the widest possible dissemination of the original rumor. I’d like to think that such motivations exist only in the fevered imaginations of paranoid partisans, but I’m not prepared to think that at this time. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > But since you asked, let me ask you: how many times do you think a troublesome rumor or issue should be raised before it becomes verbotten? What would be your answer to that conundrum? My answer would be that one reporter is entitled to one satisfactory final answer to each question, and that he bears some responsibility to provide evidence that the answer he has been given is not satisfactory before he raises it again. Now that I’ve made a good-faith effort to answer your questions, I’ll ask you mine again, and I’d be grateful for an actual answer: Are you suggesting that repeatedly putting the same rumors to the candidate in front of different audiences is a form of fact-checking? ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154/53 "2008-01-21T13:55:26Z")
[QUOTE=stolichnaya] Doesn’t that kind of make him a better Christian, though? … [/QUOTE] You would think so. The voters loved the candidate who had probably been an alcoholic and cocaine user well into adulthood, and then got clean. He seemed to get a lot of extra points for finding Jesus after trying the other route. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-a-terrorist/434154.md?page=2)