# Obama is running out of time to fulfill these GOP predictions

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 2, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479 "2016-11-02T21:25:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/21 "2016-11-03T18:58:27Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Remember when Romney was the worst person in the world?

I’ll cop to calling him “out of touch rich boy” and “flip-flopper” but “worst person in the world”? Hardly. :rolleyes: Trump makes Romney look like a candidate for Mount Rushmore.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/22 "2016-11-03T19:02:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> We all know he will cancel the election (keep an eye on the news the next few days) and declare himself President for Life. So he has a lot more time than we think to carry out his secret Commie Kenyan Muslim agenda.

Given how many people Hilary has had killed over the years, do you think he’d survive an attempt to keep her from the presidency? As long as she’s over 50% likely to win at 538, Obama won’t risk her wrath.

Really, if Hilary was that keen on assassination and so skilled she doesn’t get prosecuted, Obama wouldn’t have survived 2008.

Still, declaring martial law and stopping elections is an old rumor for Presidents. I heard it about Bush (W), and probably would have about Clinton, if I’d been on political or fringe message boards then.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/23 "2016-11-03T19:05:49Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Remember when Romney was the worst person in the world?

Just saying “But both sides do it!!” doesn’t cut it any more. We’ve shown our homework-you show yours.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/24 "2016-11-03T19:16:48Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Remember when Romney was the worst person in the world?

The Republicans could nominate someone worse than Trump (Walker or Crux, for example) but they could not nominate someone more unqualified. I certainly had issues with Romney, but he was in and is light years ahead of Trump in every way.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/25 "2016-11-03T21:18:25Z")

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Romney’s main problem was that he had to distance himself from his own policies to appeal to Republicans. He governed as a moderate, then had to convince the right he was a hardline conservative to get their votes in both the primary and the general elections.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/26 "2016-11-03T22:45:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Just saying “But both sides do it!!” doesn’t cut it any more.

Not since the nomination of Trump, at least.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/27 "2016-11-04T00:42:23Z")

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These are just more examples of how liberal politicians fail to meet the expectations of the electorate. We probably wont get the taco trucks on every comer either.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/28 "2016-11-04T01:02:12Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> [Chuck Norris’s famous 1000 years of darkness](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ud3pK5Wa90) in 2012.

He was just off by four years.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/29 "2016-11-04T01:29:19Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> The Republicans could nominate someone worse than Trump (Walker or Crux, for example) but they could not nominate someone more unqualified. I certainly had issues with Romney, but he was in and is light years ahead of Trump in every way.

[_Cunt Muffin McGillicutty 2020!_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19626666&postcount=2)

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/30 "2016-11-04T01:54:54Z")

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Amazingly, not a single prediction involving persecution of Christians or White People ever came true! Not one!

Straight people were never forced out of the military, nor forced to be gay.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/31 "2016-11-04T02:01:16Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Nope. I do remember when the left said he had no personality and how he denounced his very own healthcare plan in an unsuccessful attempt at pandering to the unthinking hard right, but I do not remember anyone on the left saying he was the worst person in the world.

Yep, that’s how I remember it.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/32 "2016-11-04T02:32:31Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Remember when Romney was the worst person in the world?

I started the thread with specific, linked and verifiable claims by Republicans predicting an outcome that would happen under Obama, but haven’t (yet). Do you see the difference?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/33 "2016-11-04T05:37:17Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Amazingly, not a single prediction involving persecution of Christians or White People ever came true! Not one!
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> Straight people were never forced out of the military, nor forced to be gay.

Well, Obama has actually chosen to interpret the 1st amendment as freedom of worship rather than freedom of religion, and has actually gone after the Little Sisters of the Poor, trying to force them to violate their faith.

It’s obviously not up to the hyperbole we heard before he was elected, but you can see why his extremely narrow view of religious freedom would scare some.

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> [@adaher](#):
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> …but you can see why his extremely narrow view of religious freedom would scare some.

No, I can’t. What’s narrow or scary about it?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/35 "2016-11-04T06:31:14Z")

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Freedom of religion involves more than just being able to worship and have private thoughts. It also means you get to live your faith, unless it conflicts with a compelling government interest. Free birth control is a policy choice that may or may not be a great idea, but is the furthest thing from a compelling interest. If that’s a compelling interest, then all laws the government chooses to pass must have no religious exemptions. Which is where I suspect the closet atheist in chief would take us if he could.

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Which is where I suspect the closet atheist in chief would take us if he could.

I thought this thread was about actual predictions, not unfalsifiable conspiracy theories.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-is-running-out-of-time-to-fulfill-these-gop-predictions/770479/37 "2016-11-04T07:01:04Z")

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It’s not. Obama is not big on religious exemptions to the laws he wants passed, and the idea that he’s an atheist or at least not religious at all is backed up by the facts and the suspicions of even his supporters.

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Freedom of religion involves more than just being able to worship and have private thoughts. It also means you get to live your faith, unless it conflicts with a compelling government interest. Free birth control is a policy choice that may or may not be a great idea, but is the furthest thing from a compelling interest. If that’s a compelling interest, then all laws the government chooses to pass must have no religious exemptions. Which is where I suspect the closet atheist in chief would take us if he could.

No, but employer-provided health care stipends is a compelling government interest. And having those stipends correspond to the best available health care advice is, again, a compelling government interest. You may disagree, but at that point we’re not quabbling over freedom of religion and “living your faith” (an argument that apparently never comes up for Rastafarians and their use of illegal drugs), but rather over what constitutes a compelling government interest.

And yes, by the way, I disagree that your personal religious belief should amount to an exemption in the law. The fact that you believe in a specific sky daddy does not mean that you should have the right to ignore the law, regardless of how petty that law is, so long as that law has a secular purpose and is not meant to simply oppress your religion.

Also, “closet atheist in chief”? Do I really have to say anything at this point?

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“If Barack Obama gets re-elected, Iran will have a nuclear weapon and the world will change if that’s the case,”  
Mitt Romney, March 2012.

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It’s not. Obama is not big on religious exemptions to the laws he wants passed, and the idea that he’s an atheist or at least not religious at all is backed up by the facts and the suspicions of even his supporters.

Should religious exemptions be assumed and automatic?

Anyway, I can casually buy that he might be an atheist, though I lack confidence that you have any particular insight into this unless you can supply a relevant cite. I also lack confidence in your speculations of what he _would_ do if he could, in a thread about people saying what he would do and didn’t.

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