# Obama = Jesus, Palin = Pilate. Change is in the air.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000 "2008-09-10T21:29:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/41 "2008-09-11T02:35:08Z")

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I just thought of something. Couldn’t the Klan be considered Community Organizers?

BTW, I’m Catholic, so don’t bother linking me to those psychos.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/42 "2008-09-11T02:46:29Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> I just thought of something.

Well, there’s a first time for everything.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/43 "2008-09-11T02:51:14Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, there’s a first time for everything.

wow, original and pithy, cute

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/44 "2008-09-11T02:54:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You have any idea how much tequila and bongwater it takes to get that image out of my brain? Well, you will when the bill arrives.

Try mixing them for greater effect.

And economy!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/45 "2008-09-11T02:55:21Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> wow, original and pithy, cute

Thank you. Glad to see you’re back. With the election coming up and all, we desperately need a few more folks here who’s only real interest in this board is in using it as a platform to bash people they don’t agree with politically.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/46 "2008-09-11T02:59:03Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Thank you. Glad to see you’re back. With the election coming up and all, we desperately need a few more folks here who’s only real interest in this board is in using it as a platform to bash people they don’t agree with politically.

I see you ignore non-political posts of mine, you pony. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/47 "2008-09-11T03:03:52Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> I see you ignore non-political posts of mine, you pony. :rolleyes:

No, just haven’t seen any yet. Anyway, you might consider trying one of **Delores Reborne** ’s Feud threads. They’re fun.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/48 "2008-09-11T03:08:14Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Thank you. Glad to see you’re back. With the election coming up and all, we desperately need a few more folks here who’s only real interest in this board is in using it as a platform to bash people they don’t agree with politically.

I’ll stick up for **Duffer**. He’s not one of those guys. **Brutus** and **Debaser** …they were those guys.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/49 "2008-09-11T03:15:17Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> I just thought of something. Couldn’t the Klan be considered Community Organizers?

I suppose so. Then again, I could consider my ass to be a hole in the ground, but I know better. You could, however, point out that Bush was also a governor.

Which strikes me as interesting: prior to his presidency, didn’t he have less executive experience then Palin?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/50 "2008-09-11T04:57:04Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’ll stick up for **Duffer**. He’s not one of those guys. **Brutus** and **Debaser** …they were those guys.

Agreed. And. believe it or not, friend **duffer** did actually revise some of his more Neanderthal (to us liberal types) views over time when last he was active on the Dope. Not as dramatically as **AirmanDoors** , but he did take some steps toward the light. His mind isn’t nailed shut: Firmly secured against most assaults from the left, of course, but not immovable.

Plus, he’s got a sense of humor, can be self-deprecating when he’s not embattled – stuff like that is why I like him even when I’m boggling at something he’s said.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled **duffer** bashfest. 😉

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/51 "2008-09-11T19:38:16Z")

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Hmmm This must have been the “line of the day” from the DNC

Donna Brazile made the same comparison on CNN.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/52 "2008-09-11T21:05:03Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> Fuck you.

John McCain “approved a message” which linked grade school children with Obama’s sexual agenda.

Drink puke, you swollen anus.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/53 "2008-09-11T23:03:40Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> We now return you to your regularly scheduled **duffer** bashfest. 😉

Have I told you lately that I love you. 🆒

Yeah, a bit weak for a Pit maybe, but I’m just dusting off the cobwebs. I got some non-political doozies coming soon. Stay tuned.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/54 "2008-09-11T23:33:33Z")

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Well I, a Democrat and an atheist, feel my eye-rolling muscles straining as per usual when ever Christ is dug up and paraded around like a political mascot, but this guy makes a decent analogy … or comparison … or something.

Somehow I don’t think Sarah Palin is going to be the direct instrument of Obama’s torture and death, but in titles, the dude makes a a point.

It’s an incredibly obtuse and overwrought point. But it’s a point.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/55 "2008-09-11T23:35:20Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Well I, a Democrat and an atheist, feel my eye-rolling muscles straining as per usual when ever Christ is dug up and paraded around like a political mascot, but this guy makes a decent analogy … or comparison … or something.
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> Somehow I don’t think Sarah Palin is going to be the direct instrument of Obama’s torture and death, but in titles, the dude makes a a point.
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> It’s an incredibly obtuse and overwrought point. But it’s a point.

Yes. I think he was making the point that it’s not the position, it’s the person and what they do. Community Organizers are not automatically of little worth and governors (or mayors) aren’t automatically instruments of good. Now, how is that a joke?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/56 "2008-09-11T23:58:30Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yes. I think he was making the point that it’s not the position, it’s the person and what they do. Community Organizers are not automatically of little worth and governors (or mayors) aren’t automatically instruments of good. Now, how is that a joke?

Well it’s not a “joke,” as such, but it’s a riposte, a witty rejoinder.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/57 "2008-09-12T00:05:56Z")

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It is all a product of the Repub Convention. Guiliani and other speakers and then Palin denigrated community organizes to diminish the importance of the work Obama did. It was obviously a plan. It does insult a lot of community organizers though.  
So some one figured Jesus was a community organizer. And Pilate was a gov. of a province. It was an amusing connection. It is not fall down laughing humor. Some even did not get it .like that speaker. It is all about nothing.

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**Author:** ![Phatlewt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Phatlewt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phatlewt)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-jesus-palin-pilate-change-is-in-the-air/463000/58 "2008-09-12T00:53:55Z")

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We missed you, duffer.

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