# Obama lies in Israel speech. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610 "2008-07-24T14:08:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/21 "2008-07-24T16:57:37Z")
[QUOTE=Zeriel] Since no one else has, I’m going to step up as an Obama fan and thank **Mr. Moto** for having the grace to apologize and retract. Too few on either side of the debate do that these days. [/QUOTE] Heh–I was just gonna say the same thing. Thanks, **Moto**. In general, I wish folks would be cautious on both sides with the accusations of lying. Don’t attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity, or however it goes. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/22 "2008-07-24T17:07:19Z")
[QUOTE=villa] In those situations, I think I am willing to give most politicians the benefit of the doubt and assume they mispoke. [/QUOTE] Yeah, they mispoke–what IS with all these sex scandals? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/23 "2008-07-24T17:16:54Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Yeah, they mispoke–what IS with all these sex scandals? [/QUOTE] Not quite sure what you are talking about here. As I said “in those situations” - “those” being ones where there is no advantage to the lie, and where it is easily proven wrong. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/24 "2008-07-24T18:30:48Z")
[QUOTE=Figaro] Shouldn’t you be having vodka?.. [/QUOTE] Well, no- I want to get _drunk_. 🙂 And cheers, **Moto**. I am in a good mood today. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/25 "2008-07-24T19:06:08Z")
Senator Obama’s words are disgusting. I for one don’t want a president who occasionally misspeaks. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/26 "2008-07-24T19:10:27Z")
[QUOTE=villa] Not quite sure what you are talking about here. As I said “in those situations” - “those” being ones where there is no advantage to the lie, and where it is easily proven wrong. [/QUOTE] Mispoke = mis-poke. As in, you know, they poked wrong. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/27 "2008-07-24T19:14:27Z")
Did he make that statement from the Iraq/Pakistan border? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/28 "2008-07-24T19:34:41Z")
[QUOTE=thelurkinghorror] Senator Obama’s words are disgusting. I for one don’t want a president who occasionally misspeaks. [/QUOTE] Or mispeaks. I want a president who can peak at exactly the right moment. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/29 "2008-07-24T19:48:14Z")
But really it doesn’t even seem like a mistake on his part at all. I bet he was just trying to restate who the “we” is that he is talking about. It seems he is saying “we passed out of the US Senate Banking Committee”, as in “We passed a bill through the USBC…” then he stops a second and backs up to explain who he means by “WE”. Seems like he is more trying to share the deed among his entire committee that passed the bill _through_ the Banking Committee. He is making sure you know that “we” includes his entire committee, and not just him or just him and a couple other people. It was passed through the banking committee by “his committee”. I think that’s what he was saying. Not lying. And not even messing up. Just not speaking as clearly as he intended. Make sense? Or totally off? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/30 "2008-07-24T19:52:32Z")
[QUOTE=tagos] Why don’t you concentrate more on the fact that he is a Muslim. [/QUOTE] Because he is really a crypto-Jew; [you can tell by the hat](http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-23-obama_N.htm). ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/31 "2008-07-24T19:59:07Z")
[QUOTE=Lemur866] Mispoke = mis-poke. As in, you know, they poked wrong. [/QUOTE] Ohhhhh. Not on form today, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Sanity\_Challenged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Sanity\_Challenged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sanity_Challenged)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/32 "2008-07-24T20:40:52Z")
I think it’s fair to say it is “his committee”, after such a successful victory with his bill. He pwned that committee!! He mad it his bitch! ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/33 "2008-07-24T20:49:45Z")
I can’t wait for the election to be over so we can move on from the pre-election partisan bullshit to the post-election partisan bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/34 "2008-07-24T20:53:54Z")
[QUOTE=World Eater] Did he make that statement from the Iraq/Pakistan border? [/QUOTE] lol 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/35 "2008-07-24T20:59:47Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] I can’t wait for the election to be over so we can move on from the pre-election partisan bullshit to the post-election partisan bullshit. [/QUOTE] Hey you! Keep your pre-election \*non-\*partisan bullshit to yourself! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/36 "2008-07-24T21:07:51Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] I can’t wait for the election to be over so we can move on from the pre-election partisan bullshit to the post-election partisan bullshit. [/QUOTE] Just wait till the Reagan Papers are unsealed. Be a hot partisan time in the old town that night, Yassir Youbethca! ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/37 "2008-07-24T21:32:13Z")
[QUOTE=Lemur866] Mispoke = mis-poke. [/QUOTE] So Obama’s poking unmarried young women? Does Bill O’Reilly know about this? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/38 "2008-07-24T21:35:26Z")
[QUOTE=Figaro] Shouldn’t you be having vodka?.. [/QUOTE] Only if he’s pouring me a double! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/39 "2008-07-24T21:40:51Z")
And how do you wear a yarmulke on such short hair? I have seen men with longer hair using bobby pins, but what if your hair is as short as Obama’s? Stick it to your head with chewing gum? These are the important questions. (And thanks, Moto, for being classy!) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-lies-in-israel-speech/457610/40 "2008-07-24T21:54:13Z")
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