# Obama meets with potential 2020 contenders **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 12, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980 "2018-06-12T17:43:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980/61 "2018-06-13T21:13:15Z")
Elizabeth Warren gave a horrible interview on Pod Save America last week and she’s definitely dropped down on my list of desired nominees. 1. She needs to quit trying to be folksy. The nonsense about Dunkin’ Donuts versus Starbucks doesn’t play well outside of New England. 2. She needs to really get her act together about financial markets regulation. I work in that industry and I was just cringing listening to her mistakes. Not quite as bad as Bernie Sanders’ deer in the headlights interview with the New York Daily News, but pretty close. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980/62 "2018-06-13T22:35:00Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > How do you support that conclusion when Hillary won the popular vote despite all her real and imagined baggage? > > Or are you suggesting that she’s somehow poisoned the well for women candidates for the next few election cycles? **Jacquernagy** has given up on female candidates for US President. It’s a theme in his posts. I, who remember [mocking Hillary Rodham Clinton as a “Frau” on this board,](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8444072) am more sanguine about someone named Amy or Tammy pulling it off. HRC had the baggage of moving between “married to a politician but with her own private sector career,” “First Lady,” and “trying to be a politician in her own right.” And she has, still, the baggage of the man she married. Someone who has built her own career without ever trying to ride on her husband’s name could have a shot. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980/63 "2018-06-13T22:40:58Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > It is looking more like this is actually more about setting up a support team than vetting actual nominees. > > That said, who would all of you like to be seen put forward as viable candidates? Sherrod Brown, as the highest-ranking pol in the USA to be a labor union guy, leads my list. You need working class support to have a shot. For actually doing the job? If I were a campaign pro, I’d seriously and repeatedly interview each of the senior State Department hands that Trump let go. Would they, could they, handle the job? Who would they recommend? Who would they want to work with? The USA is going to have to rebuild, and so is State. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980/64 "2018-06-14T00:27:25Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > **Jacquernagy** has given up on female candidates for US President. It’s a theme in his posts. First of all let me just state in no uncertain terms that I have _not_ given up on female candidates for President. In fact, I am absolutely certain that there _will_ be one, sooner rather than later. There are two separate issues here. One, the fact that Hillary was a very weak candidate. The popular vote isn’t what wins the election any more than the baseball team who hits more balls into the outfield wins the game. It isn’t the number of balls that are hit, it’s _where_ they go. Two, the fact that, _in my opinion_, there is too much of an undercurrent of sexism in American society for a female candidate to be _the strongest possible candidate_ for President to run against Donald Trump in 2020. I’m speaking only of this very specific scenario. It doesn’t mean that in the future there won’t be “moments” that can be seized by a female candidate and that she won’t win, or that she won’t be a good president. It means that, right now, in this country, in this political climate - unfortunately - being female is a liability for a presidential candidate. I think that an election where there is less at stake - where the Republican candidate is less potentially destructive than Trump - would be a fine time to run a female candidate. I just don’t think this is the time to try something that’s never been tried before with a successful outcome. That’s all. I could be wrong - I am not a political scientist. I am a layman informed by my own intuition and observations, not by any kind of formal training, and I do hope to be proven wrong. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980/65 "2018-06-15T22:02:19Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He probably has to take an intermediate step (Senator or Governor) first, and there’s the Massachusetts Fatigue factor to consider, but Rep. Seth Moulton (MA-6) is an impressive man. My Congressman, and a damned fine one. I agree it may be too early in his career, but he’s definitely one to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980/66 "2018-07-01T06:18:00Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Americans, including progressives, seem to want a dose of populism, though. American voters want to break stuff, which is why they voted for a ‘break stuff’ president. This is why then people I know that voted for DT voted that way. “To hell with it, I’ve been fucked for X many years so let’s watch it burn.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-meets-with-potential-2020-contenders/815980.md?page=3)