# Obama passing the ball to Congress for now - predictions?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 1, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710 "2013-09-01T03:42:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/401 "2013-09-10T18:34:33Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I going to go with “Delaying Tactics for $1000, Alex”.

Ya think?

But Obama is effectively neutralized. That was the goal.

And any idea that Russia will agree at this point to a UNSC resolution that puts the blame for the attack on Assad is absurd.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/402 "2013-09-10T19:12:48Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Tamerlane announced that he was looking for someone would teach his donkey to talk. Nobody wanted the job until one day Hodja Nasreddin came and promised to do it, saying that it would take 10 years. During that time Tamerlane would pay him a salary and provide him a house.
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> Hodja’s friends were very worried. “You’re crazy!” they said, “Tamerlane will execute you when he sees that you failed.”
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> “Don’t worry,” Hodja told them, “the money is good, the job is not hard, and a lot can happen in 10 years. Tamerlane might die, or I might die, or this old donkey might die. Or who knows, maybe the donkey will learn to talk.”

True enough. 😃 Except we only have to pay the salary for the next three years.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/403 "2013-09-10T21:31:07Z")

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So, anyway, Obama is a blood-thirsty militarist, except when he’s a Milquetoast wussie quailing in the face of our enemies. The Two Joes, Stalin and Chamberlain.

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/404 "2013-09-11T00:26:44Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I’m glad that Assad and the rebels will be willing to suspend their civil war while UN inspectors and the international community take a few years to secure all WMDs in Syria. And I’m certain that Assad will not condition his compliance with a WMD ban on Israel doing same.
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> However, as long as we’re not bombing Syria (and assuming this is going to provide a political out for Obama) I can live with us looking like bumbling fools on the international stage.

So often you are wrong about stuff. Perhaps we know more than your funny stories about how foolish we look on the world stage.  
What if the CW arsenal is sitting on the dock at Tartus?

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> In September 2012, the Syrian military began moving its CW from Damascus to the port city of Tartus.[21] That same month, it was reported that the military had restarted testing of chemical weapons at a base on the outskirts of Aleppo.[22] On 28 September, US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta stated that the Syrian regime had moved its chemical weapons in order to “secure” them from approaching opposition forces.[23] It emerged that the Russian government had helped set up communications between the United States and Syria regarding the status of Syria’s chemical weapons. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stated that Syria had given the United States “explanations” and “assurances” that it was taking care of the weapons.[24] On 8 December, it was reported that members of the jihadist Al-Nusra Front had recently captured a Saudi-owned toxic chemicals plant outside of Aleppo.[25] On 22 December 2012, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stated that Syria had consolidated chemical weapons into one or two places to prevent rebels capturing them, and that recent moves that had alarmed Western governments were part of this consolidation.[26][27][28][29]
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> [Syria and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_and_wmd)

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/405 "2013-09-11T00:46:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I guess they are re-writing Obama’s speech for tonight.
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> Perhaps we can pass a UNSC resolution to set up a WMD Inspection protocol. I recommend we call that resolution 1441-B to make sure past events don’t play out again.

Are you making fun of setting up a UNSC protocol to transfer a 1000 tons of chemical weapons into safer hands for destruction. What past events are you asking us to recall.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/406 "2013-09-11T02:38:37Z")

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> [@NotfooledbyW](#):
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> Are you making fun of setting up a UNSC protocol to transfer a 1000 tons of chemical weapons into safer hands for destruction. What past events are you asking us to recall.

No, that’s not what I’m doing. But keep guessing, and I’ll tell you when you get it right.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/407 "2013-09-11T05:21:01Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I going to go with “Delaying Tactics for $1000, Alex”.

That’ll turn into Bombing for $1 Trillion.

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**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/408 "2013-09-11T09:37:22Z")

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So the US doesn’t get to blow shit up from bogus but conveniently self-serving moral highground?

What kind of world are we living in!

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-passing-the-ball-to-congress-for-now-predictions/667710/409 "2013-09-26T05:09:15Z")

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Another Terr-ibble prediction from Terr:

> [@Terr](#):
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> If it happens, it will happen in years from now.
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> Since the negotiations about the control over the chemical weapons will drag on way longer than the rest of Obama’s presidency, Obama will look like a weak fool who was outplayed.

That was about the time that Putin caved to Obama’s military objective without firing a shot. Terr has been forced to abandon that prediction about the negotiations dragging out past 2016 because Russian/US negotiations were quickly finalized and the weapons are to be destroyed by 2014.

No worries though, Terr is currently pursuing a Rumsfeldism to show why Obama must be seen as a weak fool on his deal with Putin:

"[Donald Rumsfeld - Wikiquote](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld). "Simply because you do not have evidence that something exists does not mean that you have evidence that it doesn’t exist. …

You see it is a replay of Iraq with a Syrian twist that no matter how many tons of CW Assad destroys there will always into eternity be those CW that no one can see. The fact that no one sees them is proof that they exist and Obama is a weak fool just like Terr says he is.

Brilliant move Terr. It’s got to work for you.

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