# Obama releases long form birth certificate **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 27, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886 "2011-04-27T13:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/1 "2011-04-27T13:32:31Z")
Not that this will stop the tin-foil conspiracy theorists… [Obama’s long-form birth certificate](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1) ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/2 "2011-04-27T13:39:29Z")
> [@feppytweed](#): > > Not that this will stop the tin-foil conspiracy theorists… > > [Obama’s long-form birth certificate](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1) I’m watching Donald Trump’s press conference on the matter. He’s implying that the certificate may be fake, and his education is still possibly fabricated. But he’s just asking questions, so that’s ok. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/3 "2011-04-27T13:39:34Z")
It just shows what an incompetent executive he is. With all the resources of the federal government it took him three years to produce a simple forged document and to bribe/blackmail the necessary people. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/4 "2011-04-27T13:41:45Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > It just shows what an incompetent executive he is. With all the resources of the federal government it took him three years to produce a simple forged document and to bribe/blackmail the necessary people. Trollolol? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/5 "2011-04-27T13:45:37Z")
He could have waited until further in the election cycle, although I suppose it cuts Trump off at the knees a bit, and keeps all the GOP contenders at the same level. I would have thought letting Trump have more rope would have been preferable. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/6 "2011-04-27T13:46:02Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > I’m watching Donald Trump’s press conference on the matter. He’s implying that the certificate may be fake, and his education is still possibly fabricated. But he’s just asking questions, so that’s ok. Reminds me of a recent conversation with a friend about Duh Donald: _“Man, that guy is Such an A-hole…” “Nah, Trumps no A-hole.” “How can you Say that…!?” “C’mon… Nobody combs-over an A-hole.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/7 "2011-04-27T13:48:03Z")
I wish I could believe this is going to change anything. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/8 "2011-04-27T13:51:32Z")
People either accept him as president, so it’s irrelevant, or they hate Obama and will believe this is just a doctored document. Some people really disappoint me with their ignorance and stubbornness. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/9 "2011-04-27T13:53:07Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > I’m watching Donald Trump’s press conference on the matter. He’s implying that the certificate may be fake, and his education is still possibly fabricated. But he’s just asking questions, so that’s ok. Seriously? Donald Trump is having a _press conference_ about this? ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/10 "2011-04-27T13:55:56Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > I would have thought letting Trump have more rope would have been preferable. Yeah, why would he want Trump culled from the herd now? He could have done so much more damage to the Republican brand. He should’ve let him keep talking until, say, January. Release the long form just in time for Iowa. That would’ve been sinfully delicious. ETA: Not that I believe that Trump will just go away now. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/11 "2011-04-27T13:57:54Z")
I have no doubt at all that the President is a “natural born citizen” and lawfully holds his current post, but releasing the certificate now will probably just lead to the birthers asking, “Why are we only seeing it _now_? Why did he hide it for so long?” In any event, I had understood from a recent [CNN.com](http://CNN.com) story that what had been released in 2008 was all that could be publicly released, and that Obama himself would’ve had to personally escort any doubters into the Hawaii state document vault to show them the original certificate. Guess that wasn’t so. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/12 "2011-04-27T13:59:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Seriously? Donald Trump is having a _press conference_ about this? Of course, he’s an egomaniac. Plus it’s free advertising for his TV show (and apparently he’s started promoting his presidential campaign on the show as well), so it’s win-win for him whatever happens. ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/13 "2011-04-27T14:00:54Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Seriously? Donald Trump is having a _press conference_ about this? > [@](#): > > **From the article:** > Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Trump said, “I have accomplished something nobody else has accomplished.” > > “I want to look at it, but I hope it’s true,” he added. “He should have done it a long time ago. I am really honored to have played such a big role in hopefully getting rid of this issue.” Trump is unabashedly completely taking credit. I wonder what ORLY thinks about this. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/14 "2011-04-27T14:04:23Z")
Yep, should have left it until much later in the cycle. Let the Pubbie front-runners go on record as pandering to the birthers. Then chop them off at the knees just before primary season. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/15 "2011-04-27T14:06:40Z")
IIRC, Obama once claimed that his father fought in WWII. According to the Birth Certificate, his father was 25 in 1961, so that makes 9 yrs old at the conclusion of WWII. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/16 "2011-04-27T14:11:06Z")
Eh. . . we know he has problems with his numeracy. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/17 "2011-04-27T14:12:09Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > IIRC, Obama once claimed that his father fought in WWII. According to the Birth Certificate, his father was 25 in 1961, so that makes 9 yrs old at the conclusion of WWII. [Snopes](http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/service.asp) on that issue. Briefly, his grandfather and uncle served in World War II. (Edited to add [this article](http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5glEHhtC8ysjuhstRIH15Kv-tI-dQ), in which he clarifies remarks about his uncle’s role in liberating a concentration camp.) ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/18 "2011-04-27T14:26:19Z")
My money says that because the top of the form says “Certificate of Live Birth”, that it will still be unacceptable to the birthers. It won’t be accepted because it does not say “Birth Certificate” or “Birth Facts” or “Birth Record” or somesuch. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/19 "2011-04-27T14:28:54Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > My money says that because the top of the form says “Certificate of Live Birth”, that it will still be unacceptable to the birthers. It won’t be accepted because it does not say “Birth Certificate” or “Birth Facts” or “Birth Record” or somesuch. Huh. I just looked at my “long form” certificate this weekend, and I can’t even remember what the title on it was. Maybe I’m not a “real American” either! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886/20 "2011-04-27T14:31:22Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > IIRC, Obama once claimed that his father fought in WWII. According to the Birth Certificate, his father was 25 in 1961, so that makes 9 yrs old at the conclusion of WWII. Appropriate username. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/579886.md?page=2)