# "Obama Said He Would Speak Up To Stop Bernie Sanders Nomination: Report"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 27, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045 "2019-11-27T02:52:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/21 "2019-11-27T17:38:37Z")

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It’s just as likely that HuffPo just wanted a click bait article. “Oooh, establishment intrigue against the progressive prophet. Let’s whisper about it!”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/22 "2019-11-27T18:40:57Z")

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If Bernie can get the majority of the Democratic party primary voters to back him then he deserves to be our nominee. But so far there is no evidence that he can. The argument for Bernie seems to be that I and all the people in my dorm really really like him so therefore he should be the nominee. Sorry, but it just doesn’t work like that.

It wasn’t the evil mechations of the Democratic party establishment that kept him from the nomination in 2016, it was the 16,914,722 rank and file Democrats who preferred Clinton to him.

If he can’t get a majority of liberal Democrats to vote for him how is he going to get the majority of the country to.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/23 "2019-11-27T19:14:36Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> We can bring up how lackluster and overall shit Obamacare was. We can bring up the fact he enabled the US to commit regime change wars and justify coups like in Honduras. We can bring up the fact he was deporter in chief, even had his own concentration camps that were so filthy the courts ruled against him forcing him to catch n release. We can bring up the fact he sided with oil companies when it came to Keystone. We can bring up the fact he further expanded upon the mass surveillance state, and further cracked down on whistleblowers by abusing the espionage act.  
> So go ahead and attack Bernie Sanders. We welcome the attack, because we’ll just throw it back in their centrist bluedog faces 10 fold, and kneecap biden in the process who’ll likely try bringing up his dead child to disgustingly justify his half assed healthcare position.

And then you’ll have to face Trump’s policies for another 4 years.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/24 "2019-11-27T20:46:36Z")

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[Here’s](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/26/barack-obama-2020-democrats-candidates-biden-073025?utm_source=pocket-newtab) the actual Politico article which the HuffPo piece is based on. It’s actually pretty good.

It says:

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> Back when Sanders seemed like more of a threat than he does now, Obama said privately that if Bernie were running away with the nomination, Obama would speak up to stop him. (Asked about that, a spokesperson for Obama pointed out that Obama recently said he would support and campaign for whoever the Democratic nominee is.)

Which, in the absence of any information about when he allegedly said this and who he said it to, doesn’t mean much.

Later on:

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> When it comes to Sanders, I asked one close adviser whether Obama would really lay himself on the line to prevent a Sanders nomination. “I can’t really confirm that,” the adviser said. “He hasn’t said that directly to me. The only reason I’m hesitating at all is because, yeah, if Bernie were running away with it, I think maybe we would all have to say something. But I don’t think that’s likely. It’s not happening.” (Another close Obama friend said, “Bernie’s not a Democrat.”)

I’m hoping Obama is smart enough not to take sides in the primary, but it’s clear that he doesn’t care for Sanders’ policies and style. OTOH, eight years of _his_ policies and style got us Trump, so…

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/25 "2019-12-03T03:36:41Z")

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If Sanders was running away with it Obama would say nothing because by then it wouldn’t do any good. Where Obama probably would weigh in is in a Biden or Buttigieg vs. Sanders scenario well into the primary process where there’s still a good chance to stop Sanders. Especially with Buttigieg, who has like zero black support, but I bet an Obama endorsement would get him all the black support he’d need.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/26 "2019-12-03T18:29:28Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> We can bring up how lackluster and overall shit Obamacare was. We can bring up the fact he enabled the US to commit regime change wars and justify coups like in Honduras. We can bring up the fact he was deporter in chief…

Weirdest username/post combination ever.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/27 "2019-12-03T19:02:22Z")

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I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that. The other amusing thing was, ok, go ahead and try to go toe-to-toe with the by far most popular Democrat in the country (in May of this year, 91% of Democrats rated Obama’s Presidency as either good or excellent). That should end well.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/28 "2019-12-03T19:25:19Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> We can bring up how lackluster and overall shit Obamacare was. …

Which was 1000% better than any previous plan and was hamstringed at every part and month by the GOP, who named it Obamacare.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/29 "2019-12-03T19:29:56Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> Let’s talk substance.
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> M4A, … Even despite everything being used against he still came out on top with his policies such as M4A being ran on in later elections…

Bernies Sanders “M4A” plan has \*nothing whatsoever \*to do with medicare and his calling his stupid plan “Medicare for all” and thus poisoning the well for real, and possible M4A plans is one reason I dislike him.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/30 "2019-12-03T19:36:06Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Don’t fall for this click bait pot stirring. Obama hasn’t done anything at all. These are second hand reports of private conversations. Even if true, it’s not a “bad move”.

Two of us read the link, at any rate.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/31 "2019-12-04T01:44:29Z")

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That crazy Barack Obama, always wanting his side to win.

Normally, I’d use this opportunity to snarkilly say that you should ignore him and nominate the 80 year old socialist who just had a heart attack. But I actually want Trump gone if the other side’s candidate is at all palatable. And sorry, but Bernie can’t win.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/32 "2019-12-04T02:26:49Z")

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Bernie probably can’t win, although I would like to see him literally kill Trump in a debate.  
Read the link. Obama didn’t say that. Some aides said things like, “I think maybe he might talk about not letting Sanders be the candidate. Perhaps.”

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**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/33 "2019-12-04T02:32:54Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> That crazy Barack Obama, always wanting his side to win.
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> Normally, I’d use this opportunity to snarkilly say that you should ignore him and nominate the 80 year old socialist who just had a heart attack. But I actually want Trump gone if the other side’s candidate is at all palatable. And sorry, but Bernie can’t win.

When he wins are you going to come back and admit you were wrong.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/34 "2019-12-04T03:41:03Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> When he wins are you going to come back and admit you were wrong.

If he does, it’ll be pretty hard to deny we were wrong. There’s a possibility some newspapers might cover the event or something.

But he won’t.

He. Couldn’t. Beat. Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/35 "2019-12-05T22:11:49Z")

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> [@TimeWinder](#):
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> If he does, it’ll be pretty hard to deny we were wrong. There’s a possibility some newspapers might cover the event or something.
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> But he won’t.
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> He. Couldn’t. Beat. Clinton.

And you’re positing that Biden will have as much or more actual support as Hillary Clinton? Do you think he excites anyone? Does Joe Biden excite anyone?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/36 "2019-12-05T23:19:29Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> When he wins are you going to come back and admit you were wrong.

If Bernie Sanders becomes President, I will come back here and personally tell everyone that I know nothing about politics and you are a super-genius.

Now, what will you do if he doesn’t become president?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/37 "2019-12-05T23:42:13Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> And you’re positing that Biden will have as much or more actual support as Hillary Clinton? Do you think he excites anyone? Does Joe Biden excite anyone?

Maybe “exciting” isn’t what people are voting for.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/38 "2019-12-06T00:52:52Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> And you’re positing that Biden will have as much or more actual support as Hillary Clinton? Do you think he excites anyone? Does Joe Biden excite anyone?

Exciting that people who voted for Trump and realize that he is a bully and a crook may be able to vote for Biden, and not able to vote for a woman or a person of color.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/39 "2019-12-06T00:54:20Z")

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> [@TimeWinder](#):
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> He. Couldn’t. Beat. Clinton.

I don’t understand your comment. Clinton won the popular vote. She was/is very popular.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-bernie-sanders-nomination-report/844045/40 "2019-12-06T01:04:36Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> And you’re positing that Biden will have as much or more actual support as Hillary Clinton? Do you think he excites anyone? Does Joe Biden excite anyone?

Excite? Maybe not.

But lots of people like Joe Biden.

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