# Obama steps in it again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 19, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051 "2009-03-19T18:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/1 "2009-03-19T18:27:10Z")

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I was going to post a long gripe about this, but I think I will just let it stand for itself. The absolute idiocy behind this line of thinking astounds me.

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> March 17, 2009  
> Kansas City Star
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> WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is considering making veterans use private insurance to pay for treatment of combat and service-related injuries.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/2 "2009-03-19T18:27:44Z")

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Your timing is impeccable.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/3 "2009-03-19T18:33:18Z")

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[Current thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=510634)

Obama has **already listened to his advisors** and decided he was wrong.

Oh, the horrors, a President who is willing to listen and learn.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/4 "2009-03-19T18:40:05Z")

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Week after week after week…what is it, three whole months now? How long, oh Lord, how _long_?!

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/5 "2009-03-19T18:47:30Z")

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[del]Lyn[/del]Impeach the bastard already!

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/6 "2009-03-19T18:52:17Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> [Current thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=510634)
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> Obama has **already listened to his advisors** and decided he was wrong.
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> Oh, the horrors, a President who is willing to listen and learn.

I’m starting the pool for when **Clothahump** comes back to the thread and makes any sort of conciliatory remark, either “Dang, I didn’t see the other thread,” or “I should have researched this a bit more,” or “Good on Obama for realizing it was a dumb idea.”

I’m putting my money “never”, of course.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/7 "2009-03-19T18:55:52Z")

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I got five bucks on “under”! Maybe I won’t win, but I _can’t_ lose…

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/8 "2009-03-19T19:02:53Z")

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You know, I think you guys should try harder to really appreciate Clothahump. Every time I see one of his OPs, I get excited. I think to myself, “Now THIS is gonna be some QUALITY stupid!!!”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/9 "2009-03-19T19:05:53Z")

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He’s this generation’s Reeder!

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/10 "2009-03-19T19:08:57Z")

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Do you mean to say **Clothahump** steps in it again?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/11 "2009-03-19T19:09:26Z")

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Wouldn’t the appropriate right-wing response at this point be “What? He doesn’t want them to use private insurance? He’s nationalizing healthcare!”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/12 "2009-03-19T19:10:28Z")

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This is a truly bizarre move (or suggested move). Glad he’s changed his mind.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/13 "2009-03-19T19:12:01Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> [Current thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=510634)
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> Obama has **already listened to his advisors** and decided he was wrong.
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> Oh, the horrors, a President who is willing to listen and learn.

Flip-flopper!!

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/14 "2009-03-19T19:15:21Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> You know, I think you guys should try harder to really appreciate Clothahump. Every time I see one of his OPs, I get excited. I think to myself, “Now THIS is gonna be some QUALITY stupid!!!”

But by those standards the OP’s a major disappointment. If it weren’t for the technicality of being outdated, Clothahump would actually have managed to have a legit gripe!

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/15 "2009-03-19T19:23:09Z")

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You’re right, of course. As \*\*Clothahump \*\*OPs go, this was probably the MOST valid I’ve ever seen.

Of course, it’s still managed to be something of a mess, hasn’t it? 😃

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/16 "2009-03-19T19:37:49Z")

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This thread is HILarious!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/17 "2009-03-19T21:04:19Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> Flip-flopper!!

Somebody always beats me to it.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/18 "2009-03-19T21:25:28Z")

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I think Clothahump is reight, Obama has stepppedi nit again, if by ‘it’ Clothahump meant common sense and the willingness to change.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/19 "2009-03-19T21:48:19Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I’m starting the pool for when **Clothahump** comes back to the thread and makes any sort of conciliatory remark, either “Dang, I didn’t see the other thread,” …

That thread is in Great Debates, which has an entirely different purpose than the Pit. I’ve never understood the mindset that a thread on a subject in any forum precludes posting a thread with a different take on the subject in any other (appropriate) forum.

The remainder of your sentence I can’t disagree with.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/20 "2009-03-19T22:21:58Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Do you mean to say **Clothahump** steps in it again?

When did he step out of it?

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