# Obama steps in it again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051 "2009-03-19T18:27:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/21 "2009-03-19T22:22:10Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > That thread is in Great Debates, which has an entirely different purpose than the Pit. I’ve never understood the mindset that a thread on a subject in any forum precludes posting a thread with a different take on the subject in any other (appropriate) forum. > > The remainder of your sentence I can’t disagree with. That’s really only tangentially related to my point. The reason I said that is not because he posted a Pit thread when a GD thread exists, but because he posted this thread after the situation had changed, which he’d have known had he read the GD thread. If it were still relevant, I wouldn’t really care if there was a related thread in every forum. In any case, I was just throwing those up as examples of **Clothahump** actually acknowledging he goofed; the actual words wouldn’t really matter. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/22 "2009-03-20T01:29:35Z")
Things were so much better when we had “The Decider”. He was never wrong. There was no need to question him (or give him accurate information) and he never wavered after making a decision because . . . . . . well, just because. “The Decider” never needed to be questioned no matter how dire the consequences. If he said it was right, then dammit, it had to be right! That was the beauty of “The Decider”. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/23 "2009-03-20T01:46:54Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > The reason I said that is not because he posted a Pit thread when a GD thread exists, but because he posted this thread after the situation had changed, which he’d have known had he read the GD thread. _shrug_ Believe it or not, not everyone here reads GD. That doesn’t help your argument; it’s still implying that a poster should scour all the forums before he posts. I could be equally as likely to Pit something already shown to be wrong in MPSIMS, 'cause I rarely read it. Then, when it was pointed out to me, I’d feel like a fool, and would most likely acknowledge that, but it wouldn’t change the fact that my Pit was an acceptable thread start. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/24 "2009-03-20T02:03:36Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > _shrug_ Believe it or not, not everyone here reads GD. That doesn’t help your argument; it’s still implying that a poster should scour all the forums before he posts. I could be equally as likely to Pit something already shown to be wrong in MPSIMS, 'cause I rarely read it. Well, it’s not like that information is _only_ available in the GD thread. That said, what makes this funny isn’t that the OP read an out of date report and went off half-cocked before finding out that his outrage is no longer relevant. What makes it funny is that the OP is **Clothahump** , and that he does this _all the time_. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/25 "2009-03-20T02:05:43Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What makes it funny is that the OP is **Clothahump** , and that he does this _all the time_. Heh. Well, I’m not arguing against _that_. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/26 "2009-03-20T02:25:58Z")
Next up, Clothahump will reveal that Obama used drugs while in college. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/27 "2009-03-20T02:28:35Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Next up, Clothahump will reveal that Obama used drugs while in college. The real bombshell’s coming in May, when Cs going to let it slip that Obama’s a black guy. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/28 "2009-03-20T02:37:57Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The real bombshell’s coming in May, when Cs going to let it slip that Obama’s a black guy. I’ll bet he was born in Kenya, too. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/29 "2009-03-20T03:27:52Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > He’s this generation’s Reeder! That’s a serious insult to Reeder. Reeder (RIP) was a good person, who genuinely cared about people, and was against Bush because the things Bush was doing were _hurting_ people, AND he turned out to be right about practically everything. He was bitching about things that the rest of the world caught up to a couple or so years later! Humpy doesn’t give a shit about anybody or the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/30 "2009-03-20T03:36:58Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > That’s a serious insult to Reeder. Pshaw. It’s a perfectly valid comparison. **Clothahump** and **Reeder** both post(ed) knee-jerk responses to whatever stimuli tickle(s/d) their neurons. **Reeder** was hardly the only poster who was right, he was just the most asshole about it, and he paid the price. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/31 "2009-03-20T12:05:34Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > You’re right, of course. As \*\*Clothahump \*\*OPs go, this was probably the MOST valid I’ve ever seen. Actually, his thread in ATMB about starting an in memoriam forum was probably the most valid, even if the admins did go for an in memoriam sticky instead. ---
**Author:** ![Brad\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Brad\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brad_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/32 "2009-03-20T13:16:08Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The real bombshell’s coming in May, when Cs going to let it slip that Obama’s a black guy. Wait unitil June, the fact that he’s got two kids with a black woman will be leaked. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/33 "2009-03-20T15:02:17Z")
I have it on good authority that he’s a _politician_ – from _Illinois_. But I’ll go to my grave with that information. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/34 "2009-03-20T15:07:35Z")
We are here to celebrate the life and mourn the passing of\*\* 5-4-Fighting\*\*, who will be missed… ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/35 "2009-03-20T15:18:02Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I’m starting the pool for when **Clothahump** comes back to the thread and makes any sort of conciliatory remark, either “Dang, I didn’t see the other thread,” or “I should have researched this a bit more,” or “Good on Obama for realizing it was a dumb idea.” > > I’m putting my money “never”, of course. And you would lose. Did Obama backpedal on it? Sure he did, once he found out it would bite him in the ass politically. But that’s not the point. You clowns can make fun of me all you want. I pay about as much attention to your yapping as I do stray dogs in the street. However, stop to ponder this. Not a single goddamn one of you pack of idiots even considered this concept: the fact that Obama even thought of doing this in the first place was outrageous and totally immoral. And for that, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. But you won’t be. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/36 "2009-03-20T15:20:54Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Humpy doesn’t give a shit about anybody or the truth. Fuck you, Equipoise. I posted what I did specifically because I care. What Obama tried to do was unethical and immoral. But that whooshed straight over your head. Either that, or you closed your eyes to it, and I don’t know which is worse: the fact that you were too stupid to see it or too immoral to care. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/37 "2009-03-20T15:22:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Not a single goddamn one of you pack of idiots even considered this concept: the fact that Obama even thought of doing this in the first place was outrageous and totally immoral. Except for everyone who posted in the other thread. And me in this one. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/38 "2009-03-20T15:31:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > But you won’t be. Well, I did say he should be [del]lyn[/del]impeached already. What more do you want? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/39 "2009-03-20T15:36:52Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > \*\*I pay about as much attention to your yapping as I do stray dogs in the street. \*\* However, stop to ponder this. **Not a single goddamn one of you pack of idiots even considered this concept** : the fact that Obama even thought of doing this in the first place was outrageous and totally immoral. And for that, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Do you even listen to yourself, or read what you write? How could you know nobody considered it if you don’t pay any attention? **Frank** might be willing to cut you slack for not seeing the GD thread, but if you’re willing to condemn people based on your own preconceptions, then I’m not. You’re a goddamn retard. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051/40 "2009-03-20T15:43:18Z")
Cloth, please stop the partisan Kool Aid drinking phoney outrage bullshit. For the past several years it was what: We’re at war. Support the troops. Support the president because he IS the president. My country right or wrong. Whatever the president does is legal (sorta like Nixon?). Love it or leave it. Find the traitors. All sorts of flag waving superpatriot bullshit. Now that there is someone else in the White House, you feel a need to reverse all the fine upstanding patriotism you used to demand from others. You need to shut the hell up. You are a damn hypocrite. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-steps-in-it-again/490051.md?page=3)