# Obama, The Weasel!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299 "2010-04-25T12:42:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/21 "2010-04-25T23:45:22Z")

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> [@IdahoMauleMan](#):
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> He’s going to have to move a little to the right, in order for that to happen.

😛 Nice response.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/22 "2010-04-26T00:10:27Z")

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Is this another “One side is just as bad as the other side!” thread?  
Rather than doing this over and over and over, **adhay** , why don’t you just give us _positive_ reasons to vote Libertarian?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/23 "2010-04-26T00:11:27Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is this another “One side is just as bad as the other side!” thread?  
> Rather than doing this over and over and over, **adhay** , why don’t you just give us _positive_ reasons to vote Libertarian?

He’s still trying to think of one.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/24 "2010-04-26T00:20:06Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Just so I get a handle on what you were saying, and the purpose of this thread, you do not regret your '08 vote? Do you generally agree with how the posters on this thread, like **IdahoMauleMan** , seem to be receiving what you’ve said here?

Well to be fair, we’d have to say how it seems to you how the posters are receiving it.

No, I made a mistake voting at all and won’t bother to again. No _mea culpa_ here. IMHO, **IMM** is right for the wrong reasons and I was wrong for the right reasons. But then, who am I to judge? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/25 "2010-04-26T00:27:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Rather than doing this over and over and over, **adhay** , why don’t you just give us _positive_ reasons to vote Libertarian?

Well, they’re not Nader.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/26 "2010-04-26T00:36:41Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> No, I made a mistake voting at all and won’t bother to again.

In that case, who gives a shit what you think about politics? If you can’t even bother to back up your opinions with the simple act of wandering down to your polling place every other November to vote for the politician whose views are closest to yours, then your opinions are not worth the phospor dots they’re written on.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/27 "2010-04-26T00:43:27Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> No, I made a mistake voting at all and won’t bother to again.

So, because Obama has been less than perfect, you abdicate your vote for your local city council? Board of Education? Municipal Boards? State Legislator? Governor? Sheriff? Judges? State University Boards?

Way to go, skippy. You’re an American we can all be proud of. I’m so glad so many worked so hard, sacrificed their lives even so that you can be a petulant baby.

Man, that kind of attitude pisses me off.

(Psst… you can leave the box for President blank.)

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/28 "2010-04-26T00:54:09Z")

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> [@IdahoMauleMan](#):
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> He’s going to have to move a little to the right, in order for that to happen.

So…what’s so bad about ACORN?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/29 "2010-04-26T01:13:37Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> No, I made a mistake voting at all and won’t bother to again.

For someone who is 69 years old, you’re shockingly naive.

You don’t want a President, you want a saint.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/30 "2010-04-26T02:39:04Z")

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Don’t speak disrespectfully of weaseling. That’s what separates us from the animals! Well, except for weasels . . .

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/31 "2010-04-26T02:43:09Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> No, I made a mistake voting at all and won’t bother to again.

And thank Christ for that. The last thing we need is more whiney crybabies like you voting. Adults only, please.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/32 "2010-04-26T03:09:41Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, they’re not Nader.

The notion that the Republicans and the Democrats are absolutely equal when it comes to competence, trustworthiness etc. must be the main plank in the Libertarian platform because it is almost always the first thing they bring up.

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**Author:** ![IdahoMauleMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/71c47a/32.png) [@IdahoMauleMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IdahoMauleMan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/33 "2010-04-26T04:59:56Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The notion that the Republicans and the Democrats are absolutely equal when it comes to competence, trustworthiness etc. must be the main plank in the Libertarian platform because it is almost always the first thing they bring up.

By George, I think he’s got it!

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/34 "2010-04-26T05:27:06Z")

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> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#):
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> Think of the storm of shit he would cause by referring to the Armenian Genocide as a genocide.

Was what happened to the Armenians genocide? If it was then call it that. Who cares what the people who perpetrated it think of you because you speak the truth? It is their problem if they take offense at it.  
Maybe if more politicians spoke the truth then citizens wouldn’t hold such a low opinion of them.

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**Author:** ![put\_down\_the\_sabre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@put\_down\_the\_sabre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/put_down_the_sabre)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/35 "2010-04-26T05:30:56Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Was what happened to the Armenians genocide? If it was then call it that. Who cares what the people who perpetrated it think of you because you speak the truth? It is their problem if they take offense at it.  
> Maybe if more politicians spoke the truth then citizens wouldn’t hold such a low opinion of them.

Unfortunately, when the people who would be offended have things you want and need, it’s not that simple.

I know this is an almost comic exaggeration, but suppose Turkey threatened war if American politicians made the statement. Would making it still be the right thing to do, then?

pdts

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/36 "2010-04-26T05:43:03Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> I voted for Obama for two reasons: 1. To keep McCain and the Republicans out of the White House, and 2. To get some kind of health reform passed.
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> He has succeeded on both fronts. I am satisfied.

I voted for him because I wanted to see people lose their minds over having a black man in the White House, and watch them dream up ways to pretend that’s not why they’re losing their minds.

I am satisfied.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/37 "2010-04-26T05:50:38Z")

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Well, he could have at least demanded that all the Turks responsible should be arrested and sent to the Hague for trial.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/38 "2010-04-26T06:10:37Z")

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You see, its not that Barry wants to express American surrender to the Japanese Emperor by bowing, its about the very tricky elections coming up that may affect American bases in Japan,and sucking up to their Emperor cops huge brownie points at no cost.

And its not that the Armenian genocide wasn’t awful, but they are all dead, and nothing Barry can do will change that, and the Turks are an ally already inclined to be a bit stiff with us.

A lot of times, its the international equivalent of “No, of course it doesn’t make your butt look big, it looks svelte and slinky!” And if he wasn’t willing and able to do that sort of thing, he would never have been elected to anything worth hearing about.

And GeeDubya probably thinks Armenia is a little town outside of Lubbock.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/39 "2010-04-26T06:35:39Z")

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Hey, don’t blame me. I voted for Kodos.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-the-weasel/537299/40 "2010-04-26T07:33:15Z")

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> [@put\_down\_the\_sabre](#):
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> Unfortunately, when the people who would be offended have things you want and need, it’s not that simple.

What they have and we want doesn’t matter. Tell the damn truth! Sucks to be those who can’t handle it.

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> I know this is an almost comic exaggeration, but suppose Turkey threatened war if American politicians made the statement. Would making it still be the right thing to do, then?

If someone had a gun to my head and told me to say black was white, I’d do it. Is that a white lie? Heh.  
It doesn’t change the colour of black or white, though. People respect those who tell the truth and find it hard to respect those who don’t. I find it hard to respect those who only tell the truth when it furthers their interest, also.

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