# Obama to appear on O'Reilly tonight **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 4, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056 "2008-09-04T21:24:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/41 "2008-09-05T00:01:39Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > Which has fuck-all to do with Sarah Palin being a woman. I’m not saying the attacks are happening or are worse than they would be because Sarah Palin is a woman. I’m saying I take great issue with Brooke’s pregnancy being called a “legitimate target.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/42 "2008-09-05T00:02:18Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > So you think there was an innate and automatic dismissal of Hillary as a presidential candidate? She started with a huge lead in the polls and over the course of several months couldn’t earn more votes or delegates than her opponent. How is that automatic? how many women have been nominated for president or vp in our history? don’t forget, the African-American received the right to vote way before women were allowed. It’s just like I said, there’s an innate dismissal in accepting women in these roles. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/43 "2008-09-05T00:05:31Z")
> [@JohnnieEnigma](#): > > It’s kind of a weird night to have the O’Reilly/Obama interview though… this is McCain’s night. that’s like 20/20 having an interview with McCain during Obama’s speech last week. That would have been in poor form. Yeah, that would be like having McCain on the Tonight Show, or Mike Huckabee on the Colbert Report. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/44 "2008-09-05T00:07:33Z")
> [@Valgard](#): > > I understand that you don’t think Palin’s daughter is an issue because Palin is a woman, but I just don’t see why anyone would think that’s the case. Reagan’s kids were an issue. Carter’s daughter was an issue. Bush (H)'s kids weren’t an issue because they were adults. The Clintons made a point of telling everyone to stay away from Chelsea. Bush (W)'s daughters certainly came under plenty of scrutiny (as did Jeb’s daughter). > > Palin’s daughter isn’t coming under scrutiny because Palin is a woman but because she was underage, unmarried, having unprotected sex and wound up pregnant. Because of Palin’s positions (and those of the Republican party) on abstinence-only sex education, abortion and the whole “family values” theme, it’s a legitimate topic. No, I just don’t think Palin’s ability to care for her children while she’s a VP is a relevant point. Her daughter’s unplanned teenage pregnency is completely irrelevant to me. It just goes to show you that republicans are human too and have to deal with the same difficult situations just like everyone else. I don’t think the daughter’s pregnency displays any kind of hypocracy whatsoever. She had sex and got pregnant, that’s it. It happens everyday to republicans, democrats, liberals as well as the religious right … And it’s irrelevant to me. It’s a non-issue. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/45 "2008-09-05T00:08:06Z")
WTF? We have to sit through this pig, Rove, and listen to him and Billo suck Palin’s clit before we can see BHO? No spin zone, my ass. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/46 "2008-09-05T00:10:38Z")
Both my parents are republicans. My brother is a life-long heroin addict. Does this reflect on my parents? No… not at all. Shit happens in life. Teen pregnancy and drug problems don’t discriminate against political partys. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/47 "2008-09-05T00:12:02Z")
None of the Palin baby drama means a damn thing to me either. I wish the media would quit expressing outrage about how the media is attacking Palin, and actually start attacking her – not on the pregnant daughter, but on her ethical problems, her extreme social views, her nutbag pastor, her lying about the BTN, her history of abusing power, etc. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/48 "2008-09-05T00:21:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > He’s about as non-partisan as the Pope is Lutheran. > > :dubious: I don’t know… I watched the Dem Nat’l convention last week from Fox News and they were really pumped up by it. I heard a lot of positivity from the political talking heads for the dems. Even O’Reilly, when everyone thinks he’s so right-leaning, was praising Obama. They all were. Look, you’d have to be a walking dead man to not feel the energy and excitement coming from the Dem Convention. Of course there’s going to be some hyped up excitement during the Rep Nat’l Convention too… the Palin choice has had everyone reacting nonstop for days on end. I think it’s a bit over the top, but the hype is coming from both sides in both positive and negative news. And we all know that any kind of publicity is good. Palin has dominated the news since McCain’s announcement. If she was male, there wouldn’t be half the hype. So yeah, this is all because she’s a woman. that just strikes me as weird. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/49 "2008-09-05T00:22:15Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > How do you figure? “Any fetus that gets started for any reason needs to be born regardless of circumstances” and “The only correct way to avoid making babies is abstenance absorbed through undiscussed osmosis” don’t seem like contradictory positions to me. (Incorrect, and perhaps stupid, but not contradictory with each other.) They are contradictory priorities. Want to teach abstinenance-only sex education? Ok, but it doesn’t work, so more teens will get pregnant, and more will likely have abortions. Want to lower the abortion rate? Ok, but we’re going to have to go farther with sex education than asking teenagers not to have sex. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/50 "2008-09-05T00:27:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Irrespective of the pregnant daughter, it’s hypocritical to oppose abortion even in the case of rape or incest, yet also oppose sex education or birth control. Why? And remember that opposition to “sex education” is generally opposition to sex education in schools-- not opposition to parents teaching their kids about sex. Does she believe that parents should not teach their children about sex? I doubt it, but if you’ve got a cite, bring it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/51 "2008-09-05T00:28:26Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > None of the Palin baby drama means a damn thing to me either. I wish the media would quit expressing outrage about how the media is attacking Palin, and actually start attacking her – not on the pregnant daughter, **but on her ethical problems, her extreme social views, her nutbag pastor, her lying about the BTN, her history of abusing power,** etc. now those are real issues. the other stuff is deflecting bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/52 "2008-09-05T00:30:06Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why? And remember that opposition to “sex education” is generally opposition to sex education in schools-- not opposition to parents teaching their kids about sex. Does she believe that parents should not teach their children about sex? I doubt it, but if you’ve got a cite, bring it. But the sad thing with that is, that not all parents will educate their children on contraception and safe sex. IF that is Palin’s position, it’s horribly short-sited and ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/53 "2008-09-05T00:31:08Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > her nutbag pastor What gives with the nutbag pastors? First Obama, then Palin. Heck, I hear that the head of Biden’s church advocates for a resurgence for exorcisms! How’s that for nutbag? Or we could just admit that a given parishioner might belong to a church because they believe in the overall message of their faith as expressed by the church, and that while sometimes some authorities within that church might have crazy ideas, that shouldn’t necessarily taint the parishioners. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/54 "2008-09-05T00:31:37Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > But the sad thing with that is, that not all parents will educate their children on contraception and safe sex. IF that is Palin’s position, it’s horribly short-sited and ignorant. I agree. But it’s not hypocritical. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/55 "2008-09-05T00:38:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Irrespective of the pregnant daughter, it’s hypocritical to oppose abortion even in the case of rape or incest, yet also oppose sex education or birth control. Of course in principle I agree with you, but I think you want a different word than “hypocritical” here, which is wrongly applied. How about “jaw-droppingly stupid,” or “idiotic,” or at least “poorly considered.” ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/56 "2008-09-05T00:44:45Z")
Is this an interview of Obama, or a let’s listen to O’Reilly talk? Let the guy fucking answer a damn question. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/57 "2008-09-05T00:45:57Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Is this an interview of Obama, or a let’s listen to O’Reilly talk? Let the guy fucking answer a damn question. That’s what I hate about O’Reilly. He has such an overinflated ego that he makes every issue about him. I’m sure if Obama wins, he’ll claim it was because he appeared on his show. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/58 "2008-09-05T00:46:47Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Is this an interview of Obama, or a let’s listen to O’Reilly talk? Let the guy fucking answer a damn question. Haven’t seen the show before I take it? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/59 "2008-09-05T00:47:44Z")
Obama is controlling and responding beautifully. I love him. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056/60 "2008-09-05T00:49:05Z")
Never really watched O’Reilly before. He shuts up once in a while, but he certainly doesn’t give an easy interview. Then again, Obama doesn’t seem to need one. I can’t see anything I didn’t agree with. Sensible stuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-appear-on-oreilly-tonight/462056.md?page=4)