# Obama to Palestinians: "No short cuts" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 21, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068 "2011-09-21T14:49:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/321 "2013-12-05T22:56:35Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Damn Nostradamus why are you wasting your time on stupid messageboards when you should be out saving the world with your knowledge of the future? > > Does Israel still exist? If so then it’s obviously their fault, for everything, obviously. Well I don’t know if they will blame Israel for this, but I feel pretty confident in predicting that **Inbred Mm** and company will NOT admit that their predictions were off due to their own muddled thinking. I predict that they will either (1) ignore this completely; (2) attempt to change the subject; (3) try to spin the predictions and claim they were basically correct; or (4) blame some outside influence for screwing things up. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/322 "2014-10-06T13:39:34Z")
[Tripoli so dangerous that parliament has moved out](http://hamptonroads.com/2014/10/tripoli-so-dangerous-parliament-has-moved-out) > [@](#): > > In August, Libya’s parliament moved to Tobruk, with members saying they were facing a constant risk of violence in the capital. Dozens of politicians, journalists and activists in Tripoli have been arrested, kidnapped or killed, a trend that has only intensified since a loose alliance of mainly Islamist militias going under the name of Libya Dawn took control of most of the city several weeks ago. > > . . . > > Many Libyans thought the lawlessness and violence that followed the 2011 uprising against Moammar Gadhafi would fade as the Libyan state was rebuilt. > > But instead, militias that fought in the revolution have become more powerful than the state, and regional power struggles have intensified. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/323 "2014-10-06T13:45:57Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Bookmarked. So I can point and laugh in a couple of years. It’s been 3 years now . . . I think it’s worth pointing out that we are laughing at the arrogant stupidity of folks like **Brainglutton** and **Inbred**. . . we are not laughing at the intense and tragic human suffering in places like Libya and Syria. But I’m sure things would have worked out great if not for the Evil Intermeddling of Israel, the United States, etc. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/324 "2014-10-06T13:55:09Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > I don’t see that the result of the Arab spring is “friendly, secular, democratic regimes”. > > It will be in Libya, almost certainly. Thank you for reminding me 🙂 Yeah, **BrainGlutton** really screwed up on that prediction, didn’t he. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/325 "2014-10-06T17:55:54Z")
Yeah, he sure humped the camel on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/326 "2014-10-07T02:31:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, he sure humped the camel on that one. Is that a surprise. I think the only book he’s ever read is something by Michael Lind. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/327 "2014-10-07T15:12:11Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Thank you for reminding me 🙂 Yeah, **BrainGlutton** really screwed up on that prediction, didn’t he. Yes, but that’s a very charitable way to describe the situation. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/328 "2014-10-31T20:28:04Z")
[Libya Update: Benghazi Descends Into Mayhem As Army-Backed Gen. Hifter Fights Militias](http://www.ibtimes.com/libya-update-benghazi-descends-mayhem-army-backed-gen-hifter-fights-militias-1716905) > [@](#): > > The death toll on Friday alone is expected to surpass 190 as armed factions near their third week of open warfare in the streets of Benghazi, Libya. More than three years after dictator Moammar Gadhafi was killed, Libya is embroiled in an increasingly chaotic civil war. > > Fighters aligned with the secular, army-backed former general Khalifa Hiftar launched an attack on Islamist militants in the country’s second city earlier this month, throwing Benghazi into what some have called a catastrophic humanitarian situation. Car bombs, air strikes, targeted assassinations on activists and journalists and rampant gunfire in the streets have now become commonplace. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068/329 "2014-11-21T15:46:31Z")
> **[ISIS comes to Libya | CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/18/world/isis-libya/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)** > > Fighters loyal to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria are now in complete control of a city in Libya. > [@](#): > > The black flag of ISIS flies over government buildings. Police cars carry the group’s insignia. The local football stadium is used for public executions. A town in Syria or Iraq? No. A city on the coast of the Mediterranean, in Libya. > > Fighters loyal to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria are now in complete control of the city of Derna, population of about 100,000, not far from the Egyptian border and just about 200 miles from the southern shores of the European Union. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-to-palestinians-no-short-cuts/597068.md?page=16)