# Obama viewed as the Antichrist
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959 "2009-09-21T16:30:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/101 "2009-09-23T06:42:15Z")
> [@Magiver](#):
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> I dunno, They’re figures of famous people. People collect all kinds of goofy shit. To the extent it’s collected might be an indication.
It’s interesting that a tacky dress with portraits of Obama on it has been demoted from proof of worship to a kind of goofy shit. I notice that you didn’t answer the rest of my questions, but having since seen you refer to current climate theory as both religion and conspiracy, I find myself losing interest in your answers. So never mind. Carry on complaining about Obama if you must.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/102 "2009-09-23T09:02:35Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> It’s interesting that a tacky dress with portraits of Obama on it has been demoted from proof of worship to a kind of goofy shit. I notice that you didn’t answer the rest of my questions, but having since seen you refer to current climate theory as both religion and conspiracy, I find myself losing interest in your answers. So never mind. Carry on complaining about Obama if you must.
??? how do you equate action figures sold to a person who had a dress made with His Holiness on it?
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### Author:  [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/103 "2009-09-23T12:51:23Z")
They both fall into the class “goofy shit”.
How terrible for you that a president you don’t support is popular.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/104 "2009-09-24T09:15:32Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> They both fall into the class “goofy shit”.
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> How terrible for you that a president you don’t support is popular.
How embarrassing for you that a president you support is deified by a Hollywood hillbilly during the Emmy’s. What an obamanation. And if you haven’t noticed lately Obama’s popularity is on an elevator going down.
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### Author:  [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/105 "2009-09-24T13:25:23Z")
I have noticed the effectiveness of the Republican smear campaign, yes. I predicted it, in fact. Watching the Clinton administration taught me that Republicans whine, non-stop. It’s as I said: you’re whining because your president is popular and he’s not a Republican, that’s all. It must be terrible for you that the murderous torturing scumbags you cheerlead for are no longer in power.
I hope it is, anyway.
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/106 "2009-09-24T16:02:57Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> I have noticed the effectiveness of the Republican smear campaign, yes.
As I’ve said before, my guess is that nearly half the present disaffection from Obama is from his **left.** Millions of Americans who voted for him were hoping for this century’s FDR, not this century’s Bill Clinton.
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/107 "2009-09-24T20:54:51Z")
This happy little public school activity is NOT going to help quash the whole “Messiah/AntiChrist” fuss.
[http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/24/shock-video-school-kids-taught-to-praise-obama/](http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/24/shock-video-school-kids-taught-to-praise-obama/)
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/108 "2009-09-24T21:10:42Z")
I don’t hear them calling Obama the Messiah. At what point in the tape does that happen?
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/109 "2009-09-25T00:59:14Z")
Did I say they called him the Messiah here? (I think I at least implied it in the BBQ Pit entry) Nor did they call him ‘Glorious Leader’ or ‘Il Duce’ or ‘Mein Fuhrer’, but I won’t blame people who use those terms while making fun of this.
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### Author:  [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/110 "2009-09-25T01:15:35Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Millions of Americans who voted for him were hoping for this century’s FDR, not this century’s Bill Clinton.
I wouldn’t mind him being another Bill Clinton.
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/111 "2009-09-25T01:40:14Z")
> [@dropzone](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind him being another Bill Clinton.
I bet Michelle would.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/112 "2009-09-25T01:44:05Z")
> [@FriarTed](#):
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> This happy little public school activity is NOT going to help quash the whole “Messiah/AntiChrist” fuss.
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> [http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/24/shock-video-school-kids-taught-to-praise-obama/](http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/09/24/shock-video-school-kids-taught-to-praise-obama/)
I think it fits more into the use of the school system to indoctrinate children into politically supporting a candidate fuss. Although the phrase: \*\*“red ,yellow,black, or white we are all equal in his sight” \*\*does sound like something children would say in church. And they did re-write the the Battle Hymn of the Republic to praise his glory. \*\*“Hello Mr. President we honor you today for all your great accomplishments we do sing hurray”. \*\*
At best this was hero worship heaped upon 5 year olds who have no concept of the world around them. A President in office for 4 weeks is being treated like a savior come to save us with “change we can believe in”.
SING his name and sing his praises. Barack Hussein Obama.
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/113 "2009-09-25T01:52:07Z")
> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Did I say they called him the Messiah here? (I think I at least implied it in the BBQ Pit entry)…
Actually, I pretty much said it in the BBQ Pit entry.
Magiver, the “red, yellow, black and white” phrase is actually used in the song “Jesus Loves the Little Children”. Thank God they didn’t use the tune.
One account says this was done for Black History Month (February). Another account I read said this was in June (a school project? possible if it’s a year-round program). But I love the school’s statement that they did not authorize this… to be taped and shown.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/114 "2009-09-25T02:27:17Z")
> [@jayjay](#):
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> My Catholic aunt is a huge fan of the Left Behind books and spouts ALL of the anti-Obama crap that’s being flung around by the Birthers and the Tenthers and the Teabaggers.
Wait…she’s CATHOLIC, but she’s a Left Behind fan? I thought the books were really anti-Catholic? I know LaHaye has referred to it as a “false religion”.
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/115 "2009-09-25T02:35:32Z")
> [@Magiver](#):
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> I think it fits more into the use of the school system to indoctrinate children into politically supporting a candidate fuss. Although the phrase: \*\*“red ,yellow,black, or white we are all equal in his sight” \*\*does sound like something children would say in church.
Indeed, I remember it myself from Sunday School:
_Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Red and yellow, black and white
They are precious in his sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world_
So you see… um… oh. Uh oh.
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### Author:  [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/116 "2009-09-25T03:19:19Z")
> [@FriarTed](#):
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> I bet Michelle would.
Okay, Bill had some personal faults that Obama seems to lack (recent book says the first few years of marriage were rocky, perfectly understandable if they both have strong personalities, but they’re solid now), but he was a pretty good president.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/117 "2009-09-25T03:39:11Z")
> [@FriarTed](#):
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> But I love the school’s statement that they did not authorize this… to be taped and shown.
I caught that too. “We meant to indoctrinate your children without you knowing it”.
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### Author:  [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/118 "2009-09-25T03:43:20Z")
Have I mentioned how creepy you guys are getting?
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/119 "2009-09-25T03:50:48Z")
> [@dropzone](#):
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> Have I mentioned how creepy you guys are getting?
How to answer this? WWOD? 🙂 Is there any way I can tax this thread?
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/120 "2009-09-25T03:53:26Z")
I guess I don’t understand what you guys are afraid of either. Some kids want to do a dumb little rap song about the first black President for Black History Month, and that’s supposed to be disturbing for some reason?
At least they weren’t praying to a cardboard cutout .
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