# Obama viewed as the Antichrist
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959 "2009-09-21T16:30:23Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/121 "2009-09-25T03:54:59Z")
> [@Magiver](#):
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> I caught that too. “We meant to indoctrinate your children without you knowing it”.
Or…“Yeah, we know you didn’t sign a release statement allowing an image of your child to be plastered all over the internet. Some idiot in the audience decided to take it upon himself to do that without your permission.”
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/122 "2009-09-25T04:00:55Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I guess I don’t understand what you guys are afraid of either. Some kids want to do a dumb little rap song about the first black President for Black History Month, and that’s supposed to be disturbing for some reason?
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> At least they weren’t praying to a cardboard cutout .
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa. That you would even try to spin this is funny.
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### Author:  [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/123 "2009-09-25T04:06:42Z")
Spin what? No one has articulated what the concern is supposed to be.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/124 "2009-09-25T04:53:04Z")
Pretty simple, really. Obama is thinking ahead, he’s indoctrinating five and six year old kids who will be of voting age in time for the 2024 elections. An unstoppable juggernaut for his fifth term.
If the President for Life Amendment hasn’t gone through yet…
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/125 "2009-09-25T05:14:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> Pretty simple, really. Obama is thinking ahead, he’s indoctrinating five and six year old kids who will be of voting age in time for the 2024 elections. An unstoppable juggernaut for his fifth term.
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> If the President for Life Amendment hasn’t gone through yet…
Don’t be silly.
He’s grooming them to vote for Malia in 2036.
Dio, they couldn’t _pray_ to him. It was a public school after all!
Guin, LaHaye was kinda anti-Catholic in his “Revelation” commentary, written in the 1960s/maybe early '70s, but recently re-published & I’m not sure if it was revised. However, the LB series complicates it. At the time of the Rapture, many Catholics are taken, including the Pope at the time, but it’s mentioned that Pope had openly conceded that Luther’s views on salvation were correct. Also. the post-Rapture RCC supplies the structure for the World Church which becomes The Whore of Babylon. The books give us two red herrings for the role of The False Prophet- Cardinal Peter Matthews who becomes Pope Peter II and then a New Age/Wiccan Priestess. Both of them are killed by Carpathia and the World Church abolished, to be replaced by the new religion of Carpathianism. The FP finally is revealed to be Carpathia’s advisor & defrocked RCC bishop Leon Fortunato.
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/126 "2009-09-25T05:15:59Z")
> [@dropzone](#):
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> Okay, Bill had some personal faults that Obama seems to lack (recent book says the first few years of marriage were rocky, perfectly understandable if they both have strong personalities, but they’re solid now), but he was a pretty good president.
I hate to admit it, but yeah, he was, but that was too good a set-up for me to resist.
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### Author:  [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/127 "2009-09-25T16:20:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> As I’ve said before, my guess is that nearly half the present disaffection from Obama is from his **left.** Millions of Americans who voted for him were hoping for this century’s FDR, not this century’s Bill Clinton.
Don’t know why. I remember Obama’s victory speech in which he said things like “this will not be cheap; this will not be easy”. In any case, I can’t imagine the liars on the American right aren’t having an effect.
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/128 "2009-09-25T16:36:53Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Don’t know why. I remember Obama’s victory speech in which he said things like “this will not be cheap; this will not be easy”.
And FDR said things like that all the time.
But he also said things Obama **should** be saying but isn’t. Like, “We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace: business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me and I welcome their hatred.” And, “I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.”
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### Author:  [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/129 "2009-09-25T17:39:41Z")
I’d vote for him.
I’m still sort of scratching my head over whatsisface’s gloating, though. Why should I be embarrassed that a bunch of fools in some other country are buying into the demagoguery being flung by a bunch of liars, also in some other country. Or, why should I be embarrassed because other people in some other country aren’t as happy with Obama as they thought they’d be at this point? As long as he isn’t killing hundreds of thousands (like Bush), sabotaging scientific agencies(again, like Bush), and insulting my intelligence with sad excuses for having people tortured (guess who?) I’m cool.
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### Author:  [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-viewed-as-the-antichrist/510959/130 "2009-09-26T07:14:20Z")
I think theres a fun site which claims something like the words brak and bama mean something like fallen from heaven in some language. Its funny.
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