# Obama vs. Fox

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-fox/514497>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 20, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-fox/514497 "2009-10-20T16:57:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-fox/514497/603 "2009-11-04T13:50:53Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> The quote was not attributed to Mao, it was attributed to John McCain, and he did say it. [Cite](http://www.google.com/search?q=%27In+the+words+of+Chairman+Mao%2C+it%E2%80%99s+always+darkest+before+it%E2%80%99s+totally+black.%27&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLR)
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> Nice try at sleight of hand there. Better luck next time.

There is no sleight of hand involved. The cite alleged that “politicians of all stripes have been quoting Mao for years. Such as: ‘In the words of Chairman Mao, it’s always darkest before it’s totally black.’ (That was John McCain)”.

This is a direct lie - John McCain was not quoting Mao.

Regards,  
Shodan

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