# Obama vs. Trump - Any overlapping opinions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 24, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056 "2018-04-24T18:23:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/141 "2018-04-27T12:56:19Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I think it would likely lead to additional employment opportunities, which would be beneficial to at least some poor people who are currently unemployed. Sorry, but that’s not really an answer. Almost any policy you can think of would be beneficial to at least some poor people who are currently unemployed. Do you feel that eliminating the minimum wage would be beneficial to a majority of poor people whether employed or unemployed? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/142 "2018-04-27T13:05:01Z")
Slavery could arguably be seen as potentially being beneficial to poor unemployed people. I mean, they’d get free food and housing out of it, plus a job for life. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/143 "2018-04-27T13:25:55Z")
This is **HD** ’s \*best \*chosen argument against “the liberal agenda”. Or maybe he’d like to pick another? Never mind that there aren’t very many unemployed people - many of the poor have two or three jobs, in fact. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/144 "2018-04-27T13:41:27Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Never mind that there aren’t very many unemployed people - many of the poor have two or three jobs, in fact. Whereas if they could earn a living wage from one of them, they would free up the others for the unemployed. Ironic, no? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/145 "2018-04-27T13:46:31Z")
> [@blood63](#): > > I don’t like Trump at all. I don’t think he is particularly intelligent in general but an idiot could not have accomplished what he has financially. Truly, bankrupting two casinos is an astounding achievement. What positive ones have you a reference for which is not his own reporting? > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > “Hilton”? “Armani”? “Ferrari”? “Lamborghini”? “Bayer”? “Gucci”? Nobody has ever owned anything from IKEA, ever. And in the case of clothing designers, what’s rare is not using their name as their brand. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/146 "2018-04-27T13:55:10Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Truly, bankrupting two casinos is an astounding achievement. What positive ones have you a reference for which is not his own reporting? His tax returns explain it all. Oh, wait … ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/147 "2018-04-27T14:00:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Whereas if they could earn a living wage from one of them, they would free up the others for the unemployed. And free up time for them to be parents, go to school and improve their ability to get better jobs, etc. But I do understand that maintaining a permanent underclass to do all the scut work cheaply is important for shareholder value. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/148 "2018-05-01T11:15:24Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > This is **HD** ’s \*best \*chosen argument against “the liberal agenda”. Or maybe he’d like to pick another? > > Never mind that there aren’t very many unemployed people - many of the poor have two or three jobs, in fact. I’m mildly curious to know which Trump policies he supports on the grounds he thinks they seem to help poor people. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/149 "2018-05-01T14:11:25Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Do you feel that eliminating the minimum wage would be beneficial to a majority of poor people whether employed or unemployed? I’d still like an answer to this question, from the person who stated that they would like to see the minimum wage abolished. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/150 "2018-05-01T15:52:33Z")
\*Maybe \*he’s thinking of all the good Americans who lost their fruit-picking and dishwashing jobs to illegal Mexicans. But let’s hope for something better. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056/151 "2018-05-01T22:16:20Z")
There is very little daylight between the two on substantive issues. It’s mostly marketing strategies that make up the bulk of the supposed differences. American politics doesn’t move very quickly. The biggest shift between presidents was probably between Adams and Jefferson, a shift far and beyond any since. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-trump-any-overlapping-opinions/813056.md?page=7)