# Obama Vs US flag lapel pin

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 26, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080 "2012-02-26T20:45:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/21 "2012-02-27T18:10:18Z")

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I hear he also removes his birth certificate from the web site on odd-numbered Thursdays to give the conspiracy-theory nutbars something to spam about too.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/22 "2012-02-27T19:01:35Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> You need to block people who send you these emails. My mom sends them to me to debunk. She’s pretty vigilant about this.

Well, my sister sends me the damn things; sometimes i think she does it just to yank my chains.

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**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/23 "2012-02-28T11:53:45Z")

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> [@appleciders](#):
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> He doesn’t wear one every day, but he certainly does wear one frequently. People get hung up on the dumbest things.

It is a dumb thing, and it’s particularly sad to think that there are those who will think badly of someone for not wearing a flag. When did people start wearing flags anyway? The very concept is so bizarre.

Whoever starts these emails knows that they aren’t true. They’re trying to make Obama look bad. They’re implying that Obama is not a real American, that maybe he’s some sort of a librul or somethin, or who knows maybe even a librul muslim communist. Or, God forbid, he might even be French!

People who are too dumb too think for themselves will take the content of these emails as the truth without ever questioning it.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/24 "2012-02-28T15:14:39Z")

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> [@Imasquare](#):
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> When did people start wearing flags anyway? The very concept is so bizarre.

It is the same as the whole loyalty oath deal. Flagwaving has been popular since the whole McCarthy era communist scare.

Meh, as if saying a few words and signing a piece of paper would keep a dedicated spy/traitor from doing their thing.

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**Author:** ![Corcaigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Corcaigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corcaigh)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/25 "2012-02-28T16:52:56Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> I guess he’s really a secret Irishman, then.

5th generation (or is it 6th?) actual [part] Irishman 😉

> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> O’Bama

Well he did say he came here to claim his apostrophe back 😃

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/26 "2012-02-28T17:49:44Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Flagwaving has been popular since the whole McCarthy era communist scare.

Oh, flag waving has been popular long before that. The KKK was really big on flagwaving in the 1920s and there was quite a bit of it around the time that Wilson and WWI were promoting xenophobia. It probably goes back before that, but flags were more expensive and cameras were fewer.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/27 "2012-02-28T18:22:39Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Meh, as if saying a few words and signing a piece of paper would keep a dedicated spy/traitor from doing their thing.

If I were a spy I’d have no problem signing any loyalty oath or wearing any badge I was asked to.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/28 "2012-02-28T18:38:35Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> If I were a spy I’d have no problem signing any loyalty oath or wearing any badge I was asked to.

Sure, a spy would _say_ that he would sign a loyalty oath… but who can trust what a _spy_ would say?

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**Author:** ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-vs-us-flag-lapel-pin/614080/29 "2012-03-01T05:38:35Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Sure, a spy would _say_ that he would sign a loyalty oath… but who can trust what a _spy_ would say?

Well he signed that thar loyalty pledge diin’t he?

Regards,  
-Bouncer-

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