# Obama wins Nobel Prize for Peace **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 9, 2009, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173 "2009-10-09T09:20:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/41 "2009-10-09T14:40:34Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > I think I might have done more to earn the Peace Prize. I broke up a fight between a Russian and an Irishman once, and I think that alone might have been more than Obama’s done so far. Count me as another Obama voter who’s puzzled by this. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/42 "2009-10-09T14:56:59Z")
Obama was scheduled to comment on the award at 10:30, and it was pushed back to 11. I wonder if they’ve finished the speech yet. ---
**Author:** ![Mops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mops/32/16494_2.png) [@Mops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mops)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/43 "2009-10-09T14:59:35Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > It’s worse than that, hombre: > Evidently, 12 days is plenty of time. I don’t think the nomination deadline has any practical significance here - the large number of persons who can make nominations (all university professors in certain disciplines, all members of national parliaments, etc - i.e. at least some tens of thousands) will probably make sure any sitting US president (and also president-elects and recent presidents) will be among the nominees. For example I would be astonished if GWB had _not_ been nominated every year from 2001 to 2009 - surely there will have been some congressperson, history professor, etc. to take the time to send in a nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/44 "2009-10-09T15:08:46Z")
It’s a surprise, but not at all puzzling to me. Obama is astonishingly popular overseas, with many countries seeing him extending the hand of peace instead of the fist of dominance. This has to be a huge relief after eight years of saber rattling. The honeymoon isn’t over yet for those folks. Americans are more goal oriented and we reward people for results, not for potential. We consider a good try as a failure if it doesn’t produce the desired result. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/45 "2009-10-09T15:14:42Z")
Posters in GD - and millions of others, probably - are noting the irony of Obama winning this award while he considers troop increases in Afghanistan. I’d expect him to say that the international effort for peace is just beginning and depends on everyone, not just the efforts of any one person or government, and that he remains determined to see the accomplishment of his goals. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/46 "2009-10-09T15:18:15Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > What he said. This is sort of like naming an MVP after the first game of the season or handing out an Oscar on the movie’s opening night. More like giving out the Oscar when they’re not even done filming yet. Generally speaking, I like Obama and what he’s doing. I hope he accomplishes great things. But we haven’t seen it yet. He hasn’t even come _close_ to earning the Nobel Peace Prize at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/47 "2009-10-09T15:23:37Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever heard Obama sound even half this subdued. He said he does not think he belongs in the company of people who have won this award in the past, and just left without taking any questions. He said the award belongs to everyone who strives for peace, and made references to Iranian protesters, Aung San Suu Kyi, and soldiers overseas. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/48 "2009-10-09T15:27:20Z")
They should have done like Time mag. and award it to “You (except you, GWB!)”. Then we would all be happy. 🙂 That would have been less blatant. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/49 "2009-10-09T15:28:02Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Yes, because George W. Bush wanted to wipe out the rest of the world. :rolleyes: > > He started a needless war in Iraq and Afghanistan - but that’s a far cry from pointing nukes at Manila. Bill Clinton bombed Belgrade - did he also want to “wipe everyone else out?” Please, this characterization of Bush as some mustache-twirling Bond villain who is hell bent on world destruction is so fucking 2006. So you’re okay with hundreds of thousands that lunatic’s incompetence or malicious lies killed? How about the torture victims? Also the destitute from his stupid economic actions thank you for supporting that tyrant. That he still breaths free of a war crimes tribunal is a crime against all that’s good, and right. ---
**Author:** ![Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misery_Loves_Co)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/50 "2009-10-09T15:39:43Z")
Seemed weird to me too until I read this [from the AP](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j1_QF_M_HvZAOpRa9UGcm5CbA-1gD9B7HDR80) > [@](#): > > \_ Myth: The prize is awarded to recognize efforts for peace, human rights and democracy only after they have proven successful. > > More often, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments. I suspect this is the rationale for the prize. Feel free to ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/51 "2009-10-09T15:40:46Z")
I can see using the award to try to light a fire under his ass. “Hey, you’ve got this great opportunity, take it!” And I admit I really like the “Fuck you, Mr. Bush” angle of it. But I still would rather see it go to somebody that’s done more. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/52 "2009-10-09T16:06:10Z")
> [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](#): > > Seemed weird to me too until I read this [from the AP](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j1_QF_M_HvZAOpRa9UGcm5CbA-1gD9B7HDR80) > I suspect this is the rationale for the prize. That certainly makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/53 "2009-10-09T16:28:42Z")
[A contributor to FiveThirtyEight.com has some interesting things to say about the merits of the award,](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/) although he does not appear to have a good read on the U.S. mood. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/54 "2009-10-09T16:46:19Z")
> [@manila](#): > > Doesn’t scrapping the missile shield count for anything? Seeing as he didn’t scrap the missile shield… No. He merely re-changed the deployment plans to a tactically more useful configuration, with political side benefits. Remember folks, when the nominations for this prize colsed, Obama had been President for _two weeks_. What did he do in those two weeks? He moved in, and started staffing his cabinet. Listening to the wards ceremony, I think the Nobel Prize committee are just a bunch of star-struck Obamaniacs, who wanted to do something nice for him for being ‘_Not_ Bush.’ And maybe wanted his autograph. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/55 "2009-10-09T16:57:28Z")
Perhaps his not being Bush means even more to some people than I realized. I wonder if I will have the nerve to point this out to a coworker who I _know_ will bring this up today. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/56 "2009-10-09T17:02:02Z")
> [@whiterabbit](#): > > Perhaps his not being Bush means even more to some people than I realized. I wonder if I will have the nerve to point this out to a coworker who I _know_ will bring this up today. Where’s my prize, then? _I’m_ not Bush. Come to think of it, neither are you. I think you’re owed something… ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/57 "2009-10-09T17:05:43Z")
No, I’m not. And I’m more than a bit mystified by this as well. But I keep thinking that as much as I loathed Bush as president, apparently a lot of other people loathed him even _more_, which is a concept that blows my mind. I don’t think he’s done anything yet to deserve this. He’s talked a good talk but he hasn’t done that much. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/58 "2009-10-09T17:13:42Z")
Just for the sake of argument, what did Al Gore do to solve climate change? ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/59 "2009-10-09T17:22:43Z")
I think that from a non-USA standpoint, Obama winning the election, and ending the 8 dismal years of Bush, was alone reason enough to give him the prize. Perhaps they looked around the world and saw that the fury and bile raised by Bush had been practically evaporated in an instant and saw that as reason enough to congratulate him on his positive message. Since the November Election, the USA has gone from one of the most despised governments on the planet back to “normal” - meaning, the USA is now once again considered back on track by most democratic governments. If North Korea’s Kim Jong Il had been deposed and suddenly a liberal, pro-democracy leader had been declared President, most likely they would have won - as a nod and pat on the back for encouragement. Whether that is enough to warrant giving him the Peace Prize, I don’t know. I find it odd that some people are personally criticizing Obama for winning it - I mean, it is not like he campaigned for it. I am sure he was as surprised as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama-wins-nobel-prize-for-peace/513173/60 "2009-10-09T17:26:38Z")
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