# Obama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 15, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463 "2016-06-15T21:02:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/221 "2016-06-18T01:01:47Z")

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> [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](#):
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> Pitted broken ducks… what?

Why a duck?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/222 "2016-06-18T01:11:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Drawing lessons, fer sure! Maybe dancing lessons…

He doesn’t seem very bright, so probably a lot lesson that.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/223 "2016-06-18T01:40:14Z")

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> [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](#):
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> Pitted broken ducks… what?

Spam me if you wish … I’m ashamed enough for the both of us.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/224 "2016-06-18T02:31:30Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Why a duck?

Because it quacks!

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/225 "2016-06-18T04:11:40Z")

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Because it quacks!

(is there an echo in here?)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/226 "2016-06-18T04:15:14Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Because it quacks!
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> (is there an echo in here?)

Don’t be silly. Ducks don’t echo.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/227 "2016-06-18T04:36:26Z")

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It’s _not_ about ducks … it’s about shame … and being ashamed of how you treated that other idiot … he deserved better from us … [stamps foot] … don’t make me cry again.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/228 "2016-06-18T04:39:14Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Like all those news stories about how F-16s dropped bombs on the wrong people’s heads?
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> Oh wait, that doesn’t happen. The idea of manned aircraft dropping bombs on the wrong people’s heads really only enters the public discussion when a Doctors Without Borders hospital is destroyed.

You seem to misunderstand me, we agree Americans don’t care enough about who w’re bombing. American soldiers deployed anywhere in harms way makes a difference though, which is why drones are financially cheap, but politically discount bin. Their use is then a given. What, a certain person _might_ be bad and no US politician risks anything at all by killing him, hell, lets do it because it would only be a mistake to not kill a potential terrorist.

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The fear of drones doing something bad is more or less a constant buzz in our national security discussions.  
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More than American pilots put in harms way in order to kill critical targets? I don’t think so. Not even remotely, which is how we’re now projecting our power and our values.

Again, not saying that we should ground this effective tool. I’m saying you cannot get something for nothing, which seems to be the deal the American public is buying.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/229 "2016-06-18T05:29:12Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> … American soldiers deployed anywhere in harms way makes a difference though, which is why drones are financially cheap, but politically discount bin.

Not sure we ought to be putting soldiers \*or equipment \* in harm’s way in the first place. The net result of every American military adventure in the past 70-odd years has been non-positive; perhaps we should institute mandatory 100% conscription to force ourselves to put a little more thought into this adventurism stuff. As solutions go, drones are pretty a chickenshit kludge for keeping on with the same old stupid.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/230 "2016-06-18T09:13:56Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The net result of every American military adventure in the past 70-odd years has been non-positive;

Oh yeah? When was the last time you saw a Grenadan tank rolling down your street, comrade?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/231 "2016-06-18T10:30:19Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Not sure we ought to be putting soldiers \*or equipment \* in harm’s way in the first place. The net result of every American military adventure in the past 70-odd years has been non-positive; perhaps we should institute mandatory 100% conscription to force ourselves to put a little more thought into this adventurism stuff. As solutions go, drones are pretty a chickenshit kludge for keeping on with the same old stupid.

Going back 80-odd years tells a different story … now doesn’t it …

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/232 "2016-06-18T17:11:00Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Not sure we ought to be putting soldiers \*or equipment \* in harm’s way in the first place. **The net result of every American military adventure in the past 70-odd years has been non-positive;** perhaps we should institute mandatory 100% conscription to force ourselves to put a little more thought into this adventurism stuff. As solutions go, drones are pretty a chickenshit kludge for keeping on with the same old stupid.

I think the 1991 Gulf War went pretty well.

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**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/233 "2016-06-18T17:28:12Z")

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> [@IBuildEm](#):
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> 800,000 Mickey Mouse votes for Obama in Florida,

I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter. Particularly this issue. Please enlighten us on Mickey Mouse.

> [@IBuildEm](#):
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> ACORN

[link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN_2009_undercover_videos_controversy#Investigations_of_ACORN_and_the_videos)  
[link](http://www.politifact.com/search/statements/?q=ACORN)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/234 "2016-06-18T17:50:45Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I think the 1991 Gulf War went pretty well.

The invasion of Panama was also a net positive, although it was the result of the US supporting Noriega initially.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/235 "2016-06-18T19:15:02Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I think the 1991 Gulf War went pretty well.

That was not a “war”, it was a brief battle in an ongoing war that stretches back to at least 1953.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/236 "2016-06-18T19:43:12Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> That was not a “war”, it was a brief battle in an ongoing war that stretches back to at least 1953.

Yes, it was a war by any reasonable definition. Otherwise you could say the “war” goes back to 1914 or maybe the First Crusade if you want to.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/237 "2016-06-18T19:49:22Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> > [@eschereal](#):
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> > That was not a “war”, it was a brief battle in an ongoing war that stretches back to at least 1953.
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> Yes, it was a war by any reasonable definition. Otherwise you could say the “war” goes back to 1914 or maybe the First **Crusade** if you want to.

Best not mention the highlighted word in any thread involving Barack HUSSEIN Obama. It’s a power word that makes him go all fuzzy around the edges, and who knows what that may lead to.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/238 "2016-06-18T20:01:51Z")

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48 hours without our Special Ed OP returning to the boards. I guess his mommy caught him molesting the sheep again.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/239 "2016-06-18T20:13:01Z")

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The tell-tale stench of lanolin. So I’ve heard.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obama/757463/240 "2016-06-18T20:23:19Z")

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Oh, that Obama!

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