# Obamacare mandate upheld

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [June 28, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579 "2012-06-28T14:08:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/1 "2012-06-28T14:08:29Z")

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First!

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/2 "2012-06-28T14:14:23Z")

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Next time, bring accurate content.

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### Author: ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/3 "2012-06-28T14:20:45Z")

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Nope, it’s accurate. Now CNN is running a correction.

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### Author: ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/4 "2012-06-28T14:22:00Z")

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I think he means “Bring some actual content, not just a cry of First!”

That sort of YouTube juvenile bullshit isn’t how this board works.

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### Author: ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/5 "2012-06-28T14:25:39Z")

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Fair enough.

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### Author: ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/6 "2012-06-28T14:26:47Z")

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Not to mention you’re not even [first](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=656673).

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/7 "2012-06-28T14:32:56Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think he means “Bring some actual content, not just a cry of First!”
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> That sort of YouTube juvenile bullshit isn’t how this board works.

Actually, I thought he meant the individual mandate, not the whole thing.

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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/8 "2012-06-28T14:35:28Z")

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Very oncomplete story, with no real analysis if the details of the decision, [here](http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/Supreme-Court-rules-on-Obama-health-care-plan-718037/1#.T-xqjrVrPg8).

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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/9 "2012-06-28T14:39:04Z")

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Damn! Beaten to it.

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### Author: ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/10 "2012-06-28T14:48:10Z")

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Despite what the commentators on NPR were saying about the “is it a tax?” question (they indicated it was unlikely it would be ruled a tax based on oral arguments), I figured that’s what would happen. Even the solicitor general slipped a few times and called the penalty a tax.

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### Author: ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/11 "2012-06-28T14:48:24Z")

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> [@Confused dart cum](#):
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> First!

You’re new here, so apparently you’re still figuring things out. We want actual content in posts. Don’t do this again.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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### Author: ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/12 "2012-06-28T14:56:15Z")

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> [@diku](#):
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> Nope, it’s accurate. Now CNN is running a correction.

Damn, CNN, just keep digging your own grave, why don’t ya’?

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### Author: ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/13 "2012-06-28T14:56:52Z")

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Here’s the [ruling](http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-393c3a2.pdf).

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### Author: ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/14 "2012-06-28T15:02:44Z")

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> [@overlyverbose](#):
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> Here’s the [ruling](http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-393c3a2.pdf).

Warning: pdf

[Here’s the Google Docs Viewer link](http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.supremecourt.gov%2Fopinions%2F11pdf%2F11-393c3a2.pdf).

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### Author: ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/15 "2012-06-28T15:10:34Z")

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Can some legislature-oriented person explain the court’s rationale in layman’s terms?

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### Author: ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/16 "2012-06-28T15:12:59Z")

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This is a fantastic victory over the forces of darkness. Or is that dorkness? Either way, I hope Romney chokes so hard on it that he has to be rushed to the emergency room and have his life saved by Obamacare.

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### Author: ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/17 "2012-06-28T15:15:59Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Either way, I hope Romney chokes so hard on it that he has to be rushed to the emergency room and have his life saved by Obamacare.

\<Bender\>  
Damn you, Obamacare!  
\</Bender\>

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### Author: ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/18 "2012-06-28T15:22:51Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think he means “Bring some actual content, not just a cry of First!”
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> That sort of YouTube juvenile bullshit isn’t how this board works.

I thought maybe he meant that it was a first for a decision of this Supreme Court to actually go the way the Democrats wanted - in which case it was quite clever.

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### Author: ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/19 "2012-06-28T15:40:04Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> Can some legislature-oriented person explain the court’s rationale in layman’s terms?

Yes, please. Legalese-to-English translation desperately desired.

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### Author: ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamacare-mandate-upheld/626579/20 "2012-06-28T15:59:14Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think he means “Bring some actual content, not just a cry of First!”
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> That sort of YouTube juvenile bullshit isn’t how this board works.

+1

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