# Obama's aunt steps into the illegal immigrant debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586 "2010-09-21T22:39:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/41 "2010-09-22T21:17:25Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> > [Yes he has](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html). Don’t pop off at the mouth if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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> No he hasn’t. Your cite is horseshit. Obama hasn’t done anything.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Are you trying to, like, Fight **Diogenes** with **Diogenes** , so to speak? Just declare a citation as bullshit and hand wave it away?

Are you trying to be meta and deeply ironic?

Cause you’re coming across as a dick, just so you know.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/42 "2010-09-22T22:31:28Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> I am quite sure that a phone call from the WH was made to the idiot federal judge (who decided that this POS should live forever, off the MA taxpayers).  
> Face it, she has cost the taxpayers over $500,000 so far..but who cares, we can borrow the money!  
> Plus, this woman makes regular trips (via airplane)-I suspect that Obama is sending her money.  
> Cheer up, Americans..she ill probably live another 40 years, so buck up and keep paying!

What the fuck is this badly written bullshit?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/43 "2010-09-23T11:41:11Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Are you trying to, like, Fight **Diogenes** with **Diogenes** , so to speak? Just declare a citation as bullshit and hand wave it away?

You’re getting the idea - congratulations.

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> Cause you’re coming across as a dick, just so you know.

Precisely. Nothing else seemed to get thru to the dolt in question, maybe this has some chance of doing so.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/44 "2010-09-23T12:00:09Z")

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Getting back on-topic, the granting of asylum status to Obama’s aunt is suspicious. Is there really any reason to believe she’d be persecuted back in Kenya? Is there any evidence at all that anyone in Kenya cares about her one way or the other?

It sounds like she’s pretty much the archetype of the welfare bum with an entitlement mentality. Add the fact that she isn’t even supposed to be in this country, and it’s not hard to see why people get a little pissed off about her.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/45 "2010-09-23T14:47:10Z")

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It certainly isn’t. What does that have to do with Obama?

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/46 "2010-09-23T15:10:25Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Getting back on-topic, the granting of asylum status to Obama’s aunt is suspicious. Is there really any reason to believe she’d be persecuted back in Kenya? Is there any evidence at all that anyone in Kenya cares about her one way or the other?

Most of the evidence in her asylum case is confidential, as it should be - and should have been. As I posted above, the judge ruled that the leak of the fact that she had applied for asylum was the very thing that endangered her, which was presumably not the leaker’s intent. Serves him (or her) right, as far as I’m concerned.

Frankly, I’m more concerned about the entitlement mentality of whoever decided that it was OK to leak confidential information in asylum proceedings.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/47 "2010-09-23T15:49:19Z")

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It’s like some of the arguments I’ve seen here when the list of and information about people with Hispanic sounding names was leaked a few months back by someone who worked for a state agency – what’s the harm as long as it exposes people _they_ believe are miscreants.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-aunt-steps-into-the-illegal-immigrant-debate/554586/48 "2010-09-23T17:32:25Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Getting back on-topic, the granting of asylum status to Obama’s aunt is suspicious. Is there really any reason to believe she’d be persecuted back in Kenya? Is there any evidence at all that anyone in Kenya cares about her one way or the other?

Even if there’s no evidence of an existing plot, the possibility of one of the President’s relatives being put into a hostage situation is something that should be avoided if possible.

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