# Obama's Double-Leg Takedown of Bernie Sanders and Supporters
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 9, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439 "2016-05-09T21:04:21Z")
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### Author:  [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439/181 "2016-05-17T13:49:54Z")
I just heard on a podcast that only 12 of 50 governors are elected in presidential years. That is a disaster for Democrats, given the turnout numbers we have been talking about. I can understand how young voters might not get amped up to vote for one member of many in their state legislature (although it’s important), and they may often be in districts that are either deep blue or deep red, where their turnout may not matter.
But no matter what district they live in, their vote for governor counts equally; and that shit should be easy to understand. Governors are like mini-presidents! And unlike state legislators, they should be on TV a fair bit, and just generally are pretty famous within their own states (and sometimes beyond, for that matter). There’s no excuse for young voters to be skipping these elections.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439/182 "2016-05-17T14:53:10Z")
From what I see, the voter participation disparity between midterm and presidential elections seems pretty similar for 18-29 versus 30-45 and not wildly different from 45-60. The 60+ not surprisingly has the tightest participation flux of only about 10%.
[http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics](http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics)
For the record, 34 State gubernatorial elections are timed with midterms, 9 timed with presidential years, NH and VT fall on both (2 yr terms), and 5 are on off years (1 year before or after presidential)
> **[Governor (United States)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_(United_States))**
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> In the United States, a governor serves as the chief executive and commander-in-chief in each of the fifty states and in the five permanently inhabited territories, functioning as head of state and head of government therein.\[nb 1\] As such, governors are responsible for implementing state laws and overseeing the operation of the state executive branch. As state leaders, governors advance and pursue new and revised policies and programs using a variety of tools, among them executive orders, exe...
(Scroll down to “Gubernatorial election timeline schedule”)
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439/183 "2016-05-17T15:09:04Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> From what I see, the voter participation disparity between midterm and presidential elections seems pretty similar for 18-29 versus 30-45 and not wildly different from 45-60. The 60+ not surprisingly has the tightest participation flux of only about 10%.
> [http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics](http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics)
Ver informative! Not much to worry about with the Hispanic, 18-29, HS dropout demographic in terms of courting their votes.
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### Author:  [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439/184 "2016-05-17T15:26:10Z")
So it’s even worse (by one) than I thought. Surprised 538 would mess that up!
That data is great, thanks for sharing. 2014 was some shitty-ass turnout all over the place, but especially weak for the young.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-double-leg-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-and-supporters/754439/185 "2016-05-17T15:44:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Ver informative! Not much to worry about with the Hispanic, 18-29, HS dropout demographic in terms of courting their votes.
Well that depends on the state. Lots of dropouts in Nevada and lots of Hispanics in Florida so despite low turnout it could make a real difference.
eta: And you’re welcome. 🙂
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