# Obama's hypocrisy over election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 17, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925 "2016-12-17T13:18:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/41 "2016-12-19T21:11:07Z")

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> [@DrCube](#):
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> No, but most news organizations also publish editorials, advertising, and other propaganda, and that’s what [psychological warfare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare) _is_.

So we should rename the portions of the military that deals with psychological warfare (now opaquely called “military information support operations”) to something like, the 3rd Opinion-Editorial Battalion? The 5th Advertising Squadron? The 101st Airborne Convincing Division?

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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/42 "2016-12-19T21:14:20Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> So we should rename the portions of the military that deals with psychological warfare (now opaquely called “military information support operations”) to something like, the 3rd Opinion-Editorial Battalion? The 5th Advertising Squadron? The 101st Airborne Convincing Division?

Name them whatever you want. It used to be called military propaganda until that term lost its luster. Now the civilian side is called “advertising” or “marketing” and the military side is called “psychological warfare”. Gotta make the grunts feel badass about dropping pamphlets or you might stop getting volunteers.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/43 "2016-12-19T21:18:14Z")

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I literally cannot tell the diff between you republicans and democrats anymore. Democrats quoting Reagan, embracing his “winning the Cold War”…calling electors “traitors” for voting as the state results dictate. It was the Russkies!!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/44 "2016-12-20T06:40:43Z")

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Check the knuckles. You see walking callouses, its a “them”.

Not all Republicans are that dumb, they are just dumb enough to gloat about a disaster because they think they can ride it home to their agenda. They think they can control a man who cannot control himself. Rude awakenings await.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/45 "2016-12-20T08:08:01Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I think I’ve explained my position quite clearly and don’t need anyone to try to put words in my mouth. See the half dozen threads on this topic that I’ve posted in if you want to know what I think.

Lol. Of course. A “yes” or “no” would be absolute clarity and we can’t have that when it’s profitable to the left’s interest to equate Podesta falling for a phishing scam with Trump and the Russians colluding to hack the election. It’s the same thing really! And the American public must know!

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/46 "2016-12-20T08:56:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Check the knuckles. You see walking callouses, its a “them”.
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> Not all Republicans are that dumb, they are just dumb enough to gloat about a disaster because they think they can ride it home to their agenda. They think they can control a man who cannot control himself. Rude awakenings await.

You do realize that Trump’s agenda is for the most part their agenda? Just thought you may have missed that.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obamas-hypocrisy-over-election/774925/47 "2016-12-20T16:36:22Z")

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No, I don’t. When I use the word “agenda”, I generally mean a coherent set of goals and methods. If you see such a creature here, you are entirely welcome to advise us.

Please proceed, **aldiboronti**.

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