Not what I understand.
Bush father or Bush the lesser?
Also 475 more troops on the ground in Iraq. As well as the airstrikes in Syria that you linked to.
Acting in an advisory, non-combat capacity.
It’s days like these I really miss NFBW - poor fella must be twisted into a pretzel by now.
That said, this is a two-day campaign of airstrikes to take us into the weekend with visuals for the networks to back up the speech, then it sinks like the Bismarck before Monday. Drone strikes and such may continue, but there will be no mention of it in the media.
Unless something big happens tomorrow, then all bets are off.
The two term Kerry and Gore killer. 
But which as we know from history, can easily be ramped up into full combat participation with no notice.
When you overthrow a government and install a replacement government, and that replacement asks you to stay on, that’s not what I’d call “inviting you in.” If it is, all we have to do is kill Assad and install a Syrian government favorable to us, and I betcha they’ll invite us in as well.
Yeah, that Maliki guy was such a US stooge. First he invited the Iranians in to help fight ISIL, then he invited the Americans! What a doormat for the imperialist running dogs!
Well, I’m still waiting for all that peace and the spreading of Democracy throughout the Middle East that the Republicans promised was going to be the result for us going to Iraq.
Someone has to mop the mess left I guess.
We know that from a mistake so grievous that it won’t likely be made again as long as the Vietnam Memorial Wall is still standing. That this will NOT be such an escalation was one of the main points of Obama’s speech.
Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.!
It was explicitly pointed out on CBC News tonight that ISIS only exists because of the 2003 Bush war.
That assumes events beyond his control. We cannot lose, so if we aren’t winning with just air strikes and advisors, then we will be committing combat troops.
:smack: I think I’m an idiot–despite John’s clarification, I still wasn’t parsing what he said as specifically regarding Iraq’s request for US aid vs. ISIS. My apologies, John! What you said makes perfect sense in that context.
There is certainly always some finite possibility that events may unfold that way. However your statement that such a thing can happen “easily” and “with no notice” seemed to imply that the limited engagement was a mistake, or that it was a ruse for later escalation. It is none of those things, in my view. It seems like a sound strategy against a particularly dangerous adversary. The danger of the Bush war was always that Iraq could destabilize into a terrorist sanctuary where they hold a large amount of territorial control, as al Qaeda did in Afghanistan. This is exactly what’s happened.
Thank goodness for the extreme right careless talk that also works for good. As pointed before it causes the fabric of the space-time continuum and carries those words back in time to cause the opposite of what they claim. 
Before this speech the word was that Islamic State was being pushed away from a key dam and from other locations and it was thanks to US air strikes.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/perspective/2014/09/05/The-beginning-of-the-end-for-ISIS.html
Where IS is getting more gains now it is Syria and there is still a lot to clear in Iraq, so there is still a lot to go on this but what I see now is that once aerial superiority is used then the local forces have a lot of opportunities to defeat the IS.
Correction: I meant to say that:
Thank goodness for the extreme right careless talk that also works for good. As pointed before it causes the fabric of the space-time continuum ***to break and open a freak wormhole *** that carries those words back in time to cause the opposite of what they claim.
I don’t have much to add to this debate beyond asserting my broad opposition. I’m a complete isolationist in the FP arena, so I want the US to stay out of this ISIS quagmire. But I have to get this criticism off my chest that I have about the rightwing zeitgeist:
Why, exactly, is it perfectly OK for the US to write a blank check to the military to wage these foreign wars, when, at the same time, it is blasphemy for the US to ever have a universal health care system?
Complete stupidity is the answer.
The primary job of a government is to protect us from those who would prey on us, not to do for us what we can already do for ourselves.
You should Google what happened to Leon Blum, the French PM who focused on “social justice” instead of getting France ready for war. Where was his social justice under occupation?
Certainly. I’m just pointing out that there’s no guarantee. We will not lose, that’s the only certainty. The question is what we’ll have to do to win. Maybe we’ll get away with just air strikes and advisors. But maybe not.