# Obese Woman Ruins Theatre **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873 "2006-01-13T20:28:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/161 "2006-01-17T18:38:57Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > **liberty3701** So why are Americans more likely to be fat than other industrialized nations? **mswas** , what the crap does that have to do with anything I said? I’m not getting into this discussion with you. In fact, I promised myself I would stop posting in this thread because it’s so ridiculous. So, I will bite my lip from now on. But first, when will you respond to my earlier post? > [@me](#): > > Hey, Mr. Reading-Comprehension, mswas, did you see my post #131 where I quote you? Guess not. Have fun arguing with yourself. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/162 "2006-01-17T18:47:28Z")
> [@liberty3701](#): > > **mswas** , what the crap does that have to do with anything I said? I’m not getting into this discussion with you. In fact, I promised myself I would stop posting in this thread because it’s so ridiculous. So, I will bite my lip from now on. Your post implied some other factor for fatness other than simple behavior. Eating celery sticks and drinking crystal light is just as bad as eating ice cream. Healthy body weight is about a balancing of body chemistry, not about swinging wildly on a pendulum of ice cream and celery. Extreme diets don’t help. One of the most effective thing I have found for myself is that I go to this festival every summer called The Rainbow Gathering. Everyone shares what they have there, and there are kitchens that have great meals where everything is shared communally. When I go I find my body chemistry gets rebalanced by being out in the woods eating healthy balanced food. Also, the sweet stuff tastes 100X sweeter when you only eat a little bit a couple times a week. There is usually food available somewhere, and I go around eating whenever I am hungry, and when I leave I feel healthier than I do the rest of the year. If you don’t have a problem being fat, then there shouldn’t be an issue. If you’re cool with it be cool with it, if you aren’t then figure out a way to balance without going from one extreme to the other. > [@](#): > > But first, when will you respond to my earlier post? Yeah my bad. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/163 "2006-01-17T18:55:48Z")
> [@Veuve\_ClicquotNJ](#): > > I _DO_ have a problem with the following: > > (A) the snide, cruel fucking _nasty_ way people refer to fat people. “Fatties”. “Fucking pigs”. “Lardasses”. Wow - nice. How sad it is for us that our perceived “short comings” (heh - I made a funny - fat people aren’t shorted - THEY’RE FUCKING DISGUSTING PIGS!) happen to be visible to the general populace. Is it _really_ necessary to denigrate further people who probably do a damned spiffy job of that themselves? Actually, many of those insults came from the fat people themselves. > [@](#): > > Unbelieveable - really. A pedophile who has never been caught/charged/convicted - off the hook re: insults because HE’S NOT FUCKING FAT! I have no idea what this means. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/164 "2006-01-17T19:00:39Z")
Why oh why am I doing this? You’re baiting me with your stupidity! > [@mswas](#): > > Your post implied some other factor for fatness other than simple behavior. which you also said in your first post. Still don’t know why you asked why America is fat. > [@](#): > > Eating celery sticks and drinking crystal light is just as bad as eating ice cream. Duh, it was just an example. > [@](#): > > Healthy body weight is about a balancing of body chemistry, not about swinging wildly on a pendulum of ice cream and celery. Extreme diets don’t help. I’m not going to debate these issues, because no one fucking knows what a)what a healthy body weight is for an individual and b) how to achieve it. > [@](#): > > One of the most effective thing I have found for myself is that I go to this festival every summer called The Rainbow Gathering. Ah, so that’s why I don’t like you. I have never met a Rainbow person that I liked. And I’m a fucking hippie. > [@](#): > > Everyone shares what they have there, and there are kitchens that have great meals where everything is shared communally. When I go I find my body chemistry gets rebalanced by being out in the woods eating healthy balanced food. Also, the sweet stuff tastes 100X sweeter when you only eat a little bit a couple times a week. There is usually food available somewhere, and I go around eating whenever I am hungry, and when I leave I feel healthier than I do the rest of the year. Blah blah blah blah blah. > [@](#): > > If you don’t have a problem being fat, then there shouldn’t be an issue. If you’re cool with it be cool with it, if you aren’t then figure out a way to balance without going from one extreme to the other. Please don’t give me this tripe. This is not about my personal issues or lack there of. It’s about a total lack of respect I and other fatties get everyday because people assume we’re gluttonous and lazy. So, please, for the love of god, never talk to me again. Because, as we all know, I’m fat therefore I have no self-control, and I’ll have to respond. We’re on different wave-lengths, and I know I should have given up long ago trying to explain this issue to people who are clearly entrenched in their own beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/165 "2006-01-17T19:06:57Z")
Good Christ, **mswas** , you are a woo-woo asshole. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/166 "2006-01-17T19:24:42Z")
> [@flight](#): > > > [@Veuve\_ClicquotNJ](#): > > > > Unbelieveable - really. A pedophile who has never been caught/charged/convicted - off the hook re: insults because HE’S NOT FUCKING FAT! > > I have no idea what this means. For me it means that although there are people out there who are deficient in a way that is worse that overeating can hide it and be considered Joe Average, but a fat person is obvious to all. And for those who consider that deficient, an easy target. There are probably addicts of other kinds sitting next to many people in the theater but folks don’t think twice about it because it’s not obvious. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/167 "2006-01-17T19:33:13Z")
An honest question: Do adults actually really call other adults names in public because of their weight? Do people walk by an overweight perso and spit out “Fattie” or "Lardass’? Please understand that I’m not calling anyone a liar, it’s just that this sort of behavior is unfathomable to me. Does it occur frequently? Is it done by strangers or by people that know you? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/168 "2006-01-17T19:42:30Z")
**liberty3701** Give up the victim routine here for a minute. You’re in a thread discussing this subject, it’s not like I sought you out in order to give you shit, but while you’re here I have questions. I am not the person who called you a fattie. Now I never said there was an ideal body weight for people, it’s individual but you seem to have this attitude about throwing your hands up in the air where you want to get on my case for saying that it is possible to change your behavior. I’m not persecuting you, and I am sorry if you have some persecution complex related to being fat. I have known a lot of fat people in my life that were pretty ok with being fat. My Father is nearly 300 lbs, he deals with it and doesn’t get mad disrespect for it all the time. I suggested finding a way to balance your body chemistry. Something I found that happened with me was I would eat mainly carbohydrates, and my stomach would be full but I’d still be hungry, and I couldn’t figure out what it was, until I realized that I was overfilling on carbs. Then I realized that I was drinking too much soda and was intaking too much sugar. So now I mainly drink water. I started to realize that part of my depression was from smoking too much pot and waking up all tired because of the particulate matter in my lungs. Being fat isn’t something that God just bestowed upon you, there are ways to fix it, even if it is a serious medical condition. Don’t worry I am not going to seek you out to make fun of you, but I am also not going to just say “There there sweetie it’s ok to be fat”, in a thread about the subject. If you are happy with being fat, be happy, but clearly you aren’t, and you are lashing out at us that don’t choose to be that fat for being annoyed by it when it impacts us. Obesity is NOT a myth. It is VERY clear that changing one’s behavior changes one’s weight. I know personally because I have gained weight and lost it, and it always coincides with my depressive cycles. I gain weight when I am dissatisfied with my life. I lose it when I find more personal satisfaction. Basically, I don’t give a fuck if your fat, but don’t expect me to just tacitly support it because I don’t, and if you are going to make excuses and try and talk about obesity myths I am going to have to call “bullshit”. I’ve never met a fat person who jogs regularly, not ever. I’ve never met a fat Vegan. People in New York City are less fat than people elsewhere in America because we walk everywhere here. I am not singling you out for ridicule but you did join the discussion, and this is what the discussion is about. Erek ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/169 "2006-01-17T19:44:54Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > An honest question: Do adults actually really call other adults names in public because of their weight? No adults never do, children over the age of 18 do it though. Though I am unsure why people really care that much about the opinion of someone who has nothing better to do with their time than spit invective at someoen who’s not hurting them. > [@](#): > > Do people walk by an overweight perso and spit out “Fattie” or "Lardass’? Yeah it happens > [@](#): > > Please understand that I’m not calling anyone a liar, it’s just that this sort of behavior is unfathomable to me. That’s because you aren’t angry in the way that would cause you to look for someone to victimize just for the hell of it. > [@](#): > > Does it occur frequently? Relatively > [@](#): > > Is it done by strangers or by people that know you? Yes Erek ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/170 "2006-01-17T19:50:40Z")
Holy fucking crap you’re an asshole. Way to read way too much into my post. Go psychoanalyze your own butt. Oh, and I guess I’m the first fat vegan you’ve ever met. Congratulations. ---
**Author:** ![UntouchedTakeaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d78d45/32.png) [@UntouchedTakeaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UntouchedTakeaway)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/171 "2006-01-17T19:50:45Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > An honest question: Do adults actually really call other adults names in public because of their weight? > Do people walk by an overweight perso and spit out “Fattie” or "Lardass’? > Please understand that I’m not calling anyone a liar, it’s just that this sort of behavior is unfathomable to me. > Does it occur frequently? > Is it done by strangers or by people that know you? Jlzania: It never happened to me. But I know of others that yes - it has happened to them. Strangers commenting on the contents of their shopping carts. Strangers commenting on what they’re eating in restaurants. One woman in my GBS support group relayed that a cashier once asked her if she was fat because she overate or because she had a hormone problem. People out exercising - doing what the rest of the population accuses us of never doing - and having garbage flung at them while being called things like “fatass” and worse. People who had the audacity to join a gym to make an effort & then be made fun of by gym bunnies. We’re sometimes damned if we do & damned if we don’t. In my personal experience I once worked with (not directly, but in the same company), who used to literally flatten himself up against a wall when I would walk down the same hallway he was in :rolleyes: I stopped that when I asked him if he had some sort of a back problem that required him to put pressure on it against the wall 😃 So yeah - it does happen. Charming, yes? VCNJ~ ---
**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/172 "2006-01-17T19:56:22Z")
> [@Veuve\_ClicquotNJ](#): > > People out exercising - doing what the rest of the population accuses us of never doing - and having garbage flung at them while being called things like “fatass” and worse. People who had the audacity to join a gym to make an effort & then be made fun of by gym bunnies. We’re sometimes damned if we do & damned if we don’t. I sure remember that part of being fat. A non-judgemental exercise enviornment is awfully hard to find when you’re overweight. What a nasty little self sustaining cycle that is. I think that’s why I got into jogging - no gym required. Cheaper, too. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/173 "2006-01-17T19:59:59Z")
Wow. I’m just amazed. I find it absolutely astounding that anyone would comment on another’s food choices or remark negatively on their appearance much less fling garbage at them. > [@](#): > > **mswas** That’s because you aren’t angry in the way that would cause you to look for someone to victimize just for the hell of it. Maybe it’s not that complicated-maybe it’s just that my mother made damn sure that I knew it was rude to say nasty things about other people’s appearance. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/174 "2006-01-17T20:31:31Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > Wow. > I’m just amazed. > I find it absolutely astounding that anyone would comment on another’s food choices or remark negatively on their appearance much less fling garbage at them. Yes, well, it happens. Has happened to me. That’s why I come across as angry, despite what **mswas** might believe about my self-esteem. Being OK with your body if you’re fat seems to enrage those assholes even more, they really want to tear you down. Anyway, I wanted to apologize if I acted a bit crazy in this thread. Pet peeve and all. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/175 "2006-01-17T21:03:37Z")
> [@](#): > > **liberty3701** That’s why I come across as angry, despite what mswas might believe about my self-esteem. Being OK with your body if you’re fat seems to enrage those assholes even more, they really want to tear you down. You know, I’ve never really been more than 10 pounds or so over my ideal weight but I remember being the first girl to get breasts at my school and how horrible the teasing was to me. I cannot imagine how angry I would become on a regular basis if people thought they had the right to insult my appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Aangelica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Aangelica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aangelica)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/176 "2006-01-17T21:07:14Z")
I, myself, am horribly, horribly disappointed that this thread is about randomized fat hate and angst (depending on who’s typing at the moment). I was sure - _ **sure I tell you!** _ that this thread was all about a larger-than-average person going all Godzilla on some reasonably harmless architecture. I’m so disappointed. That would have been something. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/177 "2006-01-17T21:20:58Z")
Oh, come on **Aangelica**. You know that anytime the words “fat” or “obese” are used in a thread title, it turns into: “People are fat because they’re lazy!” “No, they have a glandular problem!” “No, they’re all lazy bastards!” “No, they aren’t!” “Yes, they are!” Ad infinitum It’s been done before, it’ll be done again and again and again. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/178 "2006-01-17T21:36:59Z")
> [@Aangelica](#): > > I, myself, am horribly, horribly disappointed that this thread is about randomized fat hate and angst (depending on who’s typing at the moment). > > I was sure - _ **sure I tell you!** _ that this thread was all about a larger-than-average person going all Godzilla on some reasonably harmless architecture. > > I’m so disappointed. > > That would have been something. I must admit that was my secret wish too. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/179 "2006-01-17T21:37:47Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > For me it means that although there are people out there who are deficient in a way that is worse that overeating can hide it and be considered Joe Average, but a fat person is obvious to all. And for those who consider that deficient, an easy target. There are probably addicts of other kinds sitting next to many people in the theater but folks don’t think twice about it because it’s not obvious. What if they like fat kids? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873/180 "2006-01-17T23:22:59Z")
> [@jlzania](#): > > An honest question: Do adults actually really call other adults names in public because of their weight? > Do people walk by an overweight perso and spit out “Fattie” or "Lardass’? > SNIP > Does it occur frequently? > Is it done by strangers or by people that know you? I’ve been morbidly obese my entire adult life. That’s 11 years now. I have been insulted on the basis of my weight twice during that time by adults. Once I was walking from a steak place to my car along with my girlfriend. Someone in a riced-out Civic screamed at us, “You would be so fat if you didn’t eat so fucking much.” Technically it COULD have been a 16-year-old, but I will assume not… The second time I probably angered the insult-giver first, so I won’t hold it against her. I asked a lady to step aside in a K-Mart so I could get past. Apparently I can say “Excuse me, m’adam” in a condescending tone, given that I am generally a big fat jerk. I was trying to be polite, but at that point in my life I loathed most everyone and it tended to show. “Why you need me to step aside? 'Cuz you so big?” was her response. So, no, not frequently unless once per 5 years is frequent. And always by strangers, never people I know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obese-woman-ruins-theatre/339873.md?page=10)