# Oblivious sexism?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oblivious-sexism/816020>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 13, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oblivious-sexism/816020 "2018-06-13T13:37:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oblivious-sexism/816020/21 "2018-06-14T01:24:59Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> You know what, looking back at my last post, I realize I left out a couple of critical words. What I meant to ask was. . .
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> _Which makes me wonder, what’s the reaction **of other women** to a woman who talks “aggressively” with lots of gestures, raising her voice, etc?_
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> (I already know what a typical man’s reaction would be.:D)

Also negative, often. We’re ALL programmed to expect men to talk more, and more assertively than women, and we all find it weird and ‘off’ when that doesn’t happen

(example: I went back over my link to the comedian/archbishop thing a little more carefully a minute or two ago and find that I was quite wrong to say that the comedian talked faster and louder because she had to, in order to be heard. The blogger addressed this too - _she didn’t actually talk louder_ either! So I myself was totally misled by my expectations, despite actually being on her side)

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oblivious-sexism/816020/22 "2018-06-14T09:41:25Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> So, I’m watching Real Time with Bill Maher last Friday. On his panel, his has two males with a female sitting in the middle (Why do they always put the one female in the middle anyway?). Pretty much every time the lady spoke, the guy to her left would swivel his chair facing towards her. He would bow his chest, and as he spoke, he was making hand gestures that one might perceive as “aggressive”.

Did he do that when the other guy was speaking?

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