# Obscure sequels to much better known movies

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**Created:** [October 22, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330 "2018-10-22T14:11:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/21 "2018-10-22T18:35:04Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> [The Sting II](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086370/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast) was pretty weak, even for a sequel, and not helped at all by having literally no one from the original cast, nor the original producer, nor director, return for it.

Sadly, though, it was written by David S. Ward, who wrote the original.

Ward went on to a zigzagging career, with some really good and some really bad flicks (_King Ralph_), but the original _Sting_ was definitely a high point.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/22 "2018-10-22T18:45:22Z")

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I submit \*\*\*[My Summer Story\*\*\*](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110168/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1), the 1994 follow-up to 1983’s _ **A Christmas Story** _, with none of the original cast and about one-third the charm. Oddly, this appears to have been released under two different titles, the other being “It Runs In The Family.”

If made-for-TV movies count (and keeping with the holiday theme), there’s \*\*\*[Christmas Vacation 2: Cousin Eddie’s Island Adventure\*\*\*](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367623/?ref_=nv_sr_2), a sequel to a sequel, sort of, which aired 14 years after _ **Christmas Vacation** _ was released. It was a horrible train wreck, from which I was unable to look away. About the only noteworthy thing I can say about it is that Dana Barron reprised her role as Audrey Griswold, becoming the only actor to play a Griswold offspring more than once.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/23 "2018-10-22T21:06:27Z")

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_House_, a horror/comedy starring William Katt, George Wendt, and Richard Moll.

_House II: The Second Story_, starring Arye Gross. More comedy than horror. No real connection with the first movie, except that they both take place in magical houses where the kitchen door does not always lead to the kitchen. One awesome scene with John Ratzenberger as Bill the Electrician, the guy every D&D player wants to be when he grows up.

_House III_, released in the U.S. under the title _The Horror Show_, starring Lance Henrickson and Brion James. More horror than comedy. No real connection to either of the first two.

_House IV: The Repossession_, starring William Katt. This one is actually a sequel to the first film.

_The Wild Geese_, starring Richard Burton and Richard Harris, based on Daniel Carney’s novel _The Thin White Line_.

_The Wild Geese II_, starring Scott Glenn, based on Daniel Carney’s novel _The Square Circle_. Richard Burton died before filming began, and Edward Fox plays the character’s brother. I don’t know if the character even appears in the novel.

_Code Name: Wild Geese_, starring Lewis Collins and Lee Van Cleef, a low-budget Italian knock-off.

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**Author:** ![cormac262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@cormac262](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cormac262)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/24 "2018-10-22T21:20:27Z")

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I think “Force 10 From Navarone” (sequel to “The Guns of Navarone”) would qualify.  
Some 17 years after the original, classic “Guns”, they decided to make this sequel with none of the stars from the original, but using the 2 main characters.

But…the movie did have 1) “Han Solo”, 2) “Apollo Creed”, 3) “Capt. Quint”, and 4) “Mrs. Ringo Starr” and some others (“Jaws” among them).

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/25 "2018-10-22T21:33:03Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> **The Two Jakes** was the sequel to **Chinatown** , directed by and starring Jack Nicholson. It sucked.

It didn’t suck, but it was basically the same story as the original _Chinatown_ up to the incest plot (and how Gittes doesn’t recognize “Kitty” as Katherine Mulwray is never explained) that lacks the gut-stabbing nihilism of the original.

[F/X2: The Deadly Art of Illusion](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101846/) was a sequel to the moderately well-received [F/X: Murder by Illusion](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101846/) which basically tanked despite that it was arguably a better produced film that certainly had a higher production budget. Neither film is great cinema but they’re reasonably entertaining and clever (the robot clown fight sequence in the sequel is a lot of fun), and Bryan Brown should have become a bigger actor than he ended up being, especially given that he acted circles around Tom Cruise in the hilariously terrible [_Cocktail_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094889/).

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/26 "2018-10-22T21:34:22Z")

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[quote=“Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh, post:4, topic:823330”]

There’s death sequence compilations from all the films up on YouTube. That’s really all you want to see from the movies anyway.

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I will check this out. These movies always kinda freaked me out - more the premise vs. the blood and gore.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/27 "2018-10-22T21:50:57Z")

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Both iterations of **The Fly** spawned forgotten sequels. The original Vincent Price version gave us _Return of the Fly_ and _Curse of the Fly_. The Cronenberg remake begat _The Fly II_.

**The Creature From the Black Lagoon** managed to have 2 sequels. I can remember _Revenge of the Creature_ occasionally popping up on KTLA’s Saturday afternoon “Wide Scream Theater”, but to this day have still never seen _The Creature Walks Among Us_

And we can’t forget Larry “J.R.” Hagman’s sole feature film directorial effort **Beware! The Blob** , the 14-years-later sequel to The Blob.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/28 "2018-10-22T21:51:13Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I submit \*\*\*[My Summer Story\*\*\*](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110168/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1), the 1994 follow-up to 1983’s _ **A Christmas Story** _, with none of the original cast and about one-third the charm. Oddly, this appears to have been released under two different titles, the other being “It Runs In The Family.”

I always thought the sequel was [“Ollie Hopnoodle’s Haven of Bliss”](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098023/?ref_=nv_sr_1).

None of the original cast either, but I recall it being at least funny in parts.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/29 "2018-10-22T22:03:19Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> I always thought the sequel was [“Ollie Hopnoodle’s Haven of Bliss”](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098023/?ref_=nv_sr_1).
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> None of the original cast either, but I recall it being at least funny in parts.

Wow. Never heard of this one. Jean Shephard just kept on going to that well, I guess.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/30 "2018-10-22T22:09:31Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> **The Creature From the Black Lagoon** managed to have 2 sequels. I can remember _Revenge of the Creature_ occasionally popping up on KTLA’s Saturday afternoon “Wide Scream Theater”, but to this day have still never seen _The Creature Walks Among Us_.

You’re lucky.

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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/31 "2018-10-22T22:26:22Z")

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_Basket Case_ (1982)  
_Basket Case II_ (1990)  
_Basket Case III_ (1991)

_High Noon_ (1952)  
_High Noon: The Clock Strikes Noon Again_ (1966 TV movie)  
_High Noon, Part II: The Return of Will Kane_ (1980 TV movie)  
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It’s Alive\* (1974)  
_It Lives Again_ (1978)  
_It’s Alive 3: Island of the Alive_ (1987)

_Repo Man_ (1984)  
_Repo Chick_ (2009)

_Re-Animator_ (1985)  
_Bride of Re-Animator_ (1987)  
_Beyond Re-Animator_ (2003)

_Shaft_ (1971)  
_Shaft’s Big Score!_ (1972)  
_Shaft in Africa_ (1973)  
_Shaft_ (1973) (TV Series)

_Shaft_ (2000)  
_Shaft_ (2019)

_Treasure of Sierra Madre_ (1948)  
_The Bridge in the Jungle_ (1970) - Not strictly speaking a sequel, but close enough…

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/32 "2018-10-22T22:46:17Z")

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> [@blindboyard](#):
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> For example, eight years after **Donnie Darko** , **S. Darko** came out. Donnie Darko didn’t really do that well at the box office, but it’s now remembered as a critically acclaimed cult hit. S. Darko was just terrible nonsense. Did he even have a sister in the original?

Yes, Samantha Darko is played by Daveigh Chase in both Donnie Darko and S. Darko.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/33 "2018-10-22T23:02:48Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Wow. Never heard of this one. Jean Shephard just kept on going to that well, I guess.

Shepherd wrote at least three books worth of short stories, many of which centered on the “Christmas Story” family; Years later, selections from those stories were combined into the movie so many people treasure.

For me, the print stories are far superior, probably because by the time the beloved film was made, I’d already read and loved the stories several times.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/34 "2018-10-23T00:01:27Z")

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> [@dorvann](#):
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> Don Bluth’s animated film, _The Secret of NIMH_ released in 1982, had a direct to video sequel _The Secret of NIMH 2: Timmy to the Rescue_ released in 1998. The sequel was created without Don Bluth’s support or input. It was also pretty horrible.

The original was an adaptation, so I’m not sure how much we can attribute solely to Don Bluth.

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Yes, Samantha Darko is played by Daveigh Chase in both Donnie Darko and S. Darko.

Not only that, but he had another sister played by his real life sister Maggie. Is the OP sure they saw either film? I know I’m in the minority, but I actually enjoyed S Darko, despite not being from the original creator.

The obscure but unintentionally hilarious film D-War is somehow getting a sequel.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/35 "2018-10-23T00:29:35Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I submit \*\*\*[My Summer Story\*\*\*](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110168/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1), the 1994 follow-up to 1983’s _ **A Christmas Story** _, with none of the original cast and about one-third the charm. Oddly, this appears to have been released under two different titles, the other being “It Runs In The Family.”

[There is also A Christmas Story 2.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christmas_Story_2)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/36 "2018-10-23T00:32:36Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> _ **American Graffiti** _ is one of my all-time favorite movies. The sequel, _ **More American Graffiti** _, paled in comparison to the first. Another great disappointment from George Lucas.

Oh My God that movie sucked. Even with, and especially because of Candy Clark.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/37 "2018-10-23T00:33:45Z")

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War Games, the one with the tic-tac-toe computer? It has a sequel called **War Games: The Dead Code**.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/38 "2018-10-23T00:37:54Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> If made-for-TV movies count (and keeping with the holiday theme), there’s _**[Christmas Vacation 2: Cousin Eddie’s Island Adventure](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367623/?ref_=nv_sr_2)**_, a sequel to a sequel, sort of, which aired 14 years after _ **Christmas Vacation** _ was released.

There is also [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacation_(2015_film)) sequel.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/39 "2018-10-23T01:14:23Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> The original was an adaptation, so I’m not sure how much we can attribute solely to Don Bluth.

Yeah, I know the movie is an adaption of Robert C. O’Brien’s novel _Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH_. It was my favorite book when I was a kid in the 80s and I read it multiple times. Come to thick of it the book itself has two sequels written by Robert C. O’Brien’s daughter, Jane Leslie Conly, which many people may not be aware of:

_Racso and the Rats of NIMH_  
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racso\_and\_the\_Rats\_of\_NIMH](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racso_and_the_Rats_of_NIMH)

R-T, Margaret, and the Rats of NIMH  
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-T,\_Margaret,\_and\_the\_Rats\_of\_NIMH](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-T,_Margaret,_and_the_Rats_of_NIMH)

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/40 "2018-10-23T01:21:56Z")

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**30 Days of Night** is a corker of a horror film. **30 Days of Night: Dark Days** is really lame.

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