# Obscure sequels to much better known movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330 "2018-10-22T14:11:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/41 "2018-10-23T03:50:28Z")
Found a [clip online](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd0ldQqiu58) of Mila Kunis’ narration in American Psycho 2. I agree it’s not well done, but it seems to me that they wanted the more girly way of talking as a juxtaposition. It’s being played up as a comedy. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/42 "2018-10-23T04:25:38Z")
The 1984 film _Children of the Corn_ has numerous sequels: Children of the Corn II: The Final Sacrifice Children of the Corn III: Urban Harvest Children of the Corn IV: The Gathering Children of the Corn V: Fields of Terror Children of the Corn 666: Isaac’s Return Children of the Corn: Revelation Children of the Corn: Genesis ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/43 "2018-10-23T04:45:44Z")
Not exactly that well known but **Invasion U.S.A.** the 1985 movie which is basically Red Dawn if Chuck Norris was there to stop it, had an obscure sequel in 1986 called **Avenging Force** which had literally nothing to do with the first film besides the fact both main characters are former Secret Service agents named Matt Hunter. Apparently the film was suppose to be a direct sequel but when Chuck Norris dropped out and Michael Dudikoff stepped in to fill the role they dropped the connection. However despite that they still gave the main characters the exact same names and backstories so it basically is still a sequel just recasted. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/44 "2018-10-23T06:27:58Z")
The second _Mummy_ movie, called _The Mummy Returns_, had a spinoff starring Dwayne Johnson, _The Scorpion King_ (2002), which is widely known. But that movie has four further sequels: _The Scorpion King 2: Rise of a Warrior_ (2008) _The Scorpion King 3: Battle for Redemption_ (2012) _The Scorpion King 4: Quest for Power_ (2015) _Scorpion King: Book of Souls_ (2018) I watched number 2. It was horrible. (I still wish they had made a bunch of _Ardeth Bay and the Medjai_ movies instead) ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/45 "2018-10-23T17:37:00Z")
**I Still know what you did last summer** was released in 1998, one year after 1997’s **I know what you did last summer**. Which is not a terribly great entry to this thread (it even had all the stars return!). BUT, did you know about 2006’s direct to DVD **I’ll always know what you did last summer**?? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/46 "2018-10-23T17:52:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > War Games, the one with the tic-tac-toe computer? It has a sequel called **War Games: The Dead Code**. See post 16 [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21280581&postcount=16](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21280581&postcount=16) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/47 "2018-10-23T18:05:18Z")
I thought I had the obvious choice but maybe everyone forgot it. Mister Roberts 1955. Henry Fonda, Jack Lemmon, James Cagney. Directed by John Ford. Great movie, one of my favorites. An all time classic. Ensign Pulver 1969. Robert Walker Jr, Burl Ives, Walter Matthau. Not a great movie. Largely forgotten. Joshua Logan wrote both (and co-wrote the play) and directed the second but the magic was gone. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/48 "2018-10-23T18:24:46Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I thought I had the obvious choice but maybe everyone forgot it. > > Mister Roberts 1955. Henry Fonda, Jack Lemmon, James Cagney. Directed by John Ford. Great movie, one of my favorites. An all time classic. > Ensign Pulver 1969. Robert Walker Jr, Burl Ives, Walter Matthau. Not a great movie. Largely forgotten. > > Joshua Logan wrote both (and co-wrote the play) and directed the second but the magic was gone. Nitpick: \*\*\*Pulver \*\*\*came out in the summer of 1964. I remember seeing it in Chicago with my dad, while my brother saw \*\*\*Marnie \*\*\* at another theater. May not have been as good as the original, but it was far from being a bad film. ---
**Author:** ![Rough\_Draft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@Rough\_Draft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rough_Draft)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/49 "2018-10-23T18:25:37Z")
My favorite cult movie, _Ritual Disembowelment_, had numerous inferior sequels: \*Ritual Disembowelment II: Evisceration Day Ritual Disembowelment III: Welcome to the Abattoir Ritual Disembowelment IV: Butcher’s Holiday Ritual Disembowelment V: The Gutting Continues \* At one point, a sixth movie was announced (tentatively titled _Ritual Disembowelment VI: Human Haggis_), but the project was ultimately scrapped. And then just last year the rights to the series were sold to an Asian production company, and apparently _Ritual Disembowelment Japan: The Art of Seppuku_ is in the works. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/50 "2018-10-23T18:26:54Z")
The 1986 sci-fi/fantasy classic _Highlander_ has had **five** sequels, including one that was animated. They aren’t well known, except for being terrible.(I’ve heard that the animated one isn’t too bad.) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/51 "2018-10-23T18:36:23Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > Not exactly that well known but **Invasion U.S.A.** the 1985 movie which is basically Red Dawn if Chuck Norris was there to stop it, had an obscure sequel in 1986 called **Avenging Force** which had literally nothing to do with the first film besides the fact both main characters are former Secret Service agents named Matt Hunter. For a second, I thought you were referring to **this movie** , with \*\*two \*\*(count 'em, **two**!) Lois Lanes. :o > **[Invasion, U.S.A. (1952 film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_U.S.A._(1952_film))** > > Invasion, U.S.A. (sometimes stylized Invasion USA) is a 1952 American drama film based on a story by Robert Smith and Franz Spencer and directed by Alfred E. Green. The film stars Gerald Mohr, Peggie Castle and Dan O'Herlihy. Invasion, U.S.A. is set in the Cold War and portrays the invasion of the United States by an unnamed communist enemy which likely refers to the Soviet Union. It is typical of the Red Scare film genre, common throughout the 1950s. > In a New York City bar, the brooding, myster... Even with them (\*\*and \*\*Tom Kennedy), it was a real stinker. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/52 "2018-10-23T18:45:42Z")
_Dr. Goldfoot and His Bikini Machine_ was followed the next year by _Dr. Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs_. An Italian company financed it, it was shot in Italy, and starred two Italian comics. So two versions were released, one in English built around Dr. Goldfoot (Vincent Price) and the other in Italian built around the two comics. The English version bombed but I’ve never been able to find out how well the Italian one did. The whole incredible story is told [here](https://www.blackgate.com/2018/03/07/the-wild-weird-world-of-dr-goldfoot/), complete with the _Shindig_ special about the original movie. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/53 "2018-10-23T18:59:01Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Nitpick: \*\*\*Pulver \*\*\*came out in the summer of 1964. I remember seeing it in Chicago with my dad, while my brother saw \*\*\*Marnie \*\*\* at another theater. > > May not have been as good as the original, but it was far from being a bad film. Yes 64. The thread is about obscure not bad but I disagree, it’s not a good movie. It didn’t balance Comedy and tragedy like the first. It had no great performances and the original had 4. Burl Ives was painfully miscast. It might not have been horrible but it was forgettable. There was also a tv show that lasted one season that I have not seen one minute of. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/54 "2018-10-23T19:15:40Z")
More than 50 posts in and I’m the first to mention _Phantasm_? 😕 Don Coscarelli dropped the original on us in 1979, giving us an iconic villain in The Tall Man, a bunch of weird creepy dwarf zombies and the franchise-defining imagery of the lethal flying silver orbs. Universal Studios gave him 3 million bucks to make a sequel which he finally produced in 1988. Universal Studios went home with their money but Coscarelli dropped the 3rd installment, _Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead_ in 1994, 15 freaking years after the original. Four years later, in 1998, came _Phantasm IV: Oblivion_. Every movie had been written, directed and produced by Coscarelli. Then, after an 18 year gap, and _37 years after the original film was released_, Coscarelli released _Phantasm V: Ravager_ (for the first time he shared writing credits and gave up directing duties entirely). ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/55 "2018-10-23T19:27:58Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > For example, eight years after **Donnie Darko** , **S. Darko** came out. Donnie Darko didn’t really do that well at the box office, but it’s now remembered as a critically acclaimed cult hit. S. Darko was just terrible nonsense. Did he even have a sister in the original? Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion. > [@EllisDee](#): > > Yes, Samantha Darko is played by Daveigh Chase in both Donnie Darko and S. Darko. She was also Samara in The Ring! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/56 "2018-10-23T19:38:58Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Yes 64. The thread is about obscure not bad but I disagree, it’s not a good movie. It didn’t balance Comedy and tragedy like the first. It had no great performances and the original had 4. Burl Ives was painfully miscast. It might not have been horrible but it was forgettable. > > There was also a tv show that lasted one season that I have not seen one minute of. For sure, it couldn’t compete against the likes of Henry Fonda, Jack Lemmon, William Powell, and Jimmy Cagney, but I enjoyed it then and have since. Interestingly, it was both directed and co-written by Joshua Logan. According to Wiki, it came out in November 1964, so I must have seen over Thanksgiving or Christmas (or maybe even the following year). I remember the _ **Mr Roberts** _ TV series with Roger Smith (1965–66), but no _ **Ensign Pulver** _ series. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/57 "2018-10-23T22:21:12Z")
Many people don’t know that there have been several sequels and spin-off movies to **Star Wars** , none as good as the original. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/58 "2018-10-23T22:30:15Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Many people don’t know that there have been several sequels and spin-off movies to **Star Wars** , none as good as the original. Although give all of the manipulations and changes in directoral vision, only on sequel can be considered a canonical representation of the original intent. I speak of none other than [_The Star Wars Holiday Special_](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S3a5j8PgQxg). Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330/59 "2018-10-23T23:06:45Z")
[Look What’s Happened to Rosemary’s Baby](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_What%27s_Happened_to_Rosemary%27s_Baby) - a TV movie. It was NOT based on Ira Levin’s own sequel to his novel, nor was Mia Farrow involved. ---
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> [@lost4life](#): > > She was also Samara in The Ring! For me, Daveigh Chase will always and forever be [Roman Grant’s child-wife Rhonda](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_tQD64_3W8). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obscure-sequels-to-much-better-known-movies/823330.md?page=4)