# obtaining new key for Schlage locks **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 8, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119 "2012-10-08T19:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/1 "2012-10-08T19:24:59Z")
I have the type of Schlage Locks that you are able to re-key without removing it. I want to re-key everything and need 5 or so identical new keys. The keymaker place at Ace, can’t just make a random key, they have to be able to copy something. Do I have to buy a new, unneeded lock just to get the included key pattern? ---
**Author:** ![justrob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@justrob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justrob)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/2 "2012-10-08T19:31:55Z")
I’d just ask a friend or family member if they have an old key from a Schlage lock they don’t use anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/3 "2012-10-08T19:50:50Z")
I bet I have one around. Let me know if you don’t have any luck locally. I might even have a spare Smart Key tool. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/4 "2012-10-08T19:56:37Z")
> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#): > > I bet I have one around. Let me know if you don’t have any luck locally. I might even have a spare Smart Key tool. Thanks. Since the whole point is to be able to re-key at anytime, you’d think they would offer a 4-pack of just keys for sale or something. Some googling seems to indicate that they discontinued the smartkey technology anyway, possibly due to a kwikset lawsut. great… ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/5 "2012-10-08T20:05:27Z")
Found some on ebay. Including the needed blue key. woohoo! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/6 "2012-10-08T20:58:19Z")
FYI, a good locksmith can make a key with just the key blank and a rat-tail file. I’ve seen it done. ---
**Author:** ![Snnipe\_70E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@Snnipe\_70E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snnipe_70E)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/7 "2012-10-09T01:12:18Z")
If it is for your home I will assume it is a 5 pin “C”. All the lock smith needs is the pin numbers. If you are rekeying to a new key and the lock is not going to be submastered to any key system the lock smith can pick any numbers with in reason and cut a new key He then should take a blank key put it in his Blue key cutting machine and cut a new key. Then taking the old key remove the core repin it to the new pins. reinstall and you are dne. Rereading I am not sure what you mean by rekeying it without removing it? Is your lock an interchangable core type of lock? If it is he will need a key cut to the present pinning so he can first make a change key. Which is used to remove the core to be repinned. dDo you know which keyway you have? ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/8 "2012-10-09T02:19:27Z")
> [@Snnipe\_70E](#): > > Rereading I am not sure what you mean by rekeying it without removing it? Is your lock an interchangable core type of lock? If it is he will need a key cut to the present pinning so he can first make a change key. Which is used to remove the core to be repinned. dDo you know which keyway you have? It’s the securekey type (now apparently discontinued). Luckily, I do have the blue key cut to the current pinning. ---
**Author:** ![Snnipe\_70E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@Snnipe\_70E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snnipe_70E)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/9 "2012-10-09T02:41:33Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > It’s the securekey type (now apparently discontinued). Luckily, I do have the blue key cut to the current pinning. Securekey? Is that a high security lock? ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/10 "2012-10-09T02:53:38Z")
> [@Snnipe\_70E](#): > > Securekey? > Is that a high security lock? Apparently, only as a claim in their advertising campaigns. :-p > **[Schlage SecureKey - Lockwiki](https://www.lockwiki.com/index.php/Schlage_SecureKey)** [QUOTE=lockwiki] The SecureKey may be vulnerable to one or more of the following attacks: ``` Lockpicking Impressioning Decoding Destructive entry Key bumping ``` [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Snnipe\_70E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@Snnipe\_70E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snnipe_70E)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obtaining-new-key-for-schlage-locks/637119/11 "2012-10-09T05:41:18Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > Apparently, only as a claim in their advertising campaigns. :-p > > [Schlage SecureKey - Lockwiki](http://www.lockwiki.com/index.php/Schlage_SecureKey) Ok after looking at the link I remember a little about this lock. to cut a new key you will have to go to a locksmith. ACE or a hardware store will only have a key copy machine. So your choices are get an key from someone else, buy a new lock, or see if a locksmith will cut a new key. But I am not surre the ssecurekey uses standard pins.