# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 116
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2301 "2015-10-03T18:37:13Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Honestly people riding through fog is so common I’m surprised there’s not a TVTropes page about it. I did see a neat fan art of Darth Vader in samurai armor, so I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if that’s where the inspiration came from. As I stated, the stills do not do the comparison justice. It is not just walking through fog, it is how the riders approach the camera, slowly materializing with their clan flags on their backs. It is a scene that makes you exclaim, “I have seen this before!” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2302 "2015-10-21T01:10:45Z")
I just finished watching the \*\*\*Columbo \*\*\* episode “Forgotten Lady” for the umpteenth time and realized something: At least three of the actors were 1966 _ **Batman** _ alumni! There was the butler, Maurice Evans (aka “The Puzzler”); Linda Scott, the maid (aka “Moth”), and Francine York, the policewoman (aka “Miss Limpit”). ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2303 "2015-10-23T10:33:09Z")
I just had to be told that the ticket lottery for $10 tickets to Hamilton on Broadway is #Ham4Ham not because they’re hamming it up for Hamilton but because a $10 bill is (for now) a Hamilton. So it’s a Hamilton for a ticket, see? (This might be obscure if your social media hasn’t been taken over by Hamilton fans. Mine has been, so I see Ham4Ham constantly. Not complaining though.) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2304 "2015-10-23T11:53:47Z")
A few months ago I got an annual pass to Disney World and I’ve been to the Haunted Mansion several times, and just now did I realize that it was a _deliberate_, not haphazard journey, through the various places in the mansion, and that the ghosts mainly appear after the séance (although to be fair I’m not sure if the séance was always there, so I may have ignored that part.) ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2305 "2015-10-24T17:58:42Z")
I just watched Blade Runner again and realized that most of the dialogue between Deckard and Bryant doesn’t make sense. If Deckard is such a great blade runner that he needs to be pulled out of retirement, shouldn’t he already know all about Nexus-6 replicants and their 4 year life span and not have to have Bryant explain it to him? For that matter, why would Tyrell or anyone at Tyrell Corporation need Decker to explain how a Voight-Kampff test works? He designed the damn things. It would be like explaining to Steve Jobs how an iPod works. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2306 "2015-10-25T07:31:21Z")
It’s a week to Halloween, so obviously it’s time to watch Hocus Pocus and pick up missed jokes. When Winifred Sanderson tell the bus driver that they want children, and he says it may take a couple of tries, that’s a sex joke. I’m 27 and I’ve watched Hocus Pocus almost every autumn I can remember and I just figured out it’s a sex joke. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2307 "2015-10-27T06:25:40Z")
The music video for “Shimmer” from Fuel. It finally dawned on me that flickering lighting was done to make the video… Wait for it… Wait for it… Shimmer. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2308 "2015-10-27T13:36:15Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > A few months ago I got an annual pass to Disney World and I’ve been to the Haunted Mansion several times, and just now did I realize that it was a _deliberate_, not haphazard journey, through the various places in the mansion, and that the ghosts mainly appear after the séance (although to be fair I’m not sure if the séance was always there, so I may have ignored that part.) I’ve read this six times now and I still don’t understand. How could a ride be anything but deliberate? Also, the seance has always been there. Creepy ass green haired lady. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2309 "2015-10-27T15:10:00Z")
I guess I’m overstating the case because it seemed to me to be going from a hallway/foyer/drawing room like atmosphere toward the more intimate dining room/bedroom locations, as opposed to just going to random rooms in the mansion. But looking back at it I’m wrong: it still seems pretty random. But I still didn’t notice the part about the séance. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2310 "2015-10-27T15:11:17Z")
I think what he’s saying is the ride isn’t just going through rooms in whatever sequence they occur, but the sequence follows a story. Been too long for me, so I can’t judge that. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2311 "2015-10-27T15:48:41Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I think what he’s saying is the ride isn’t just going through rooms in whatever sequence they occur, but the sequence follows a story. Been too long for me, so I can’t judge that. As many times as I’ve ridden it (I could probably recite all the doom buggy narrator’s dialogue) \*I \*couldn’t tell you what, if any, story it’s supposed to follow. Would be interesting if anyone here knows. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2312 "2015-10-27T18:17:02Z")
Watching the movie Antman a few months ago I wondered why he would name his flying ant “Antony.” It took me a little while to finally say “ANTony” in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2313 "2015-10-27T20:47:34Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > As many times as I’ve ridden it (I could probably recite all the doom buggy narrator’s dialogue) \*I \*couldn’t tell you what, if any, story it’s supposed to follow. Would be interesting if anyone here knows. The story is fleshed out (heh) a little at Euro Disney. One of the plots is about a woman who didn’t want to be a bride, so killed herself…but was still the Bride of Death. Disneyland (Anaheim) has only the woman in a bridal dress with a ghostly red heartbeat. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2314 "2015-10-28T02:30:00Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The story is fleshed out (heh) a little at Euro Disney. One of the plots is about a woman who didn’t want to be a bride, so killed herself…but was still the Bride of Death. > > Disneyland (Anaheim) has only the woman in a bridal dress with a ghostly red heartbeat. Not anymore. She’s got an [axe](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4149/4994790012_f796975c21_b.jpg) now. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2315 "2015-10-28T17:23:57Z")
For the longest time I thought the Steve Miller lyric in **Fly Like an Eagle** was “shoot the children.” Then I heard it again a few years ago and understood that he said “shoo the children” - as in, tell the children to go away. Just today I heard it on the radio again and realized he said “shoe the children” - which is pretty damn obvious since the next line is “with no shoes on their feet.” I have no excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2316 "2015-10-28T19:05:20Z")
**Morbo** , no excuse at all. > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > As many times as I’ve ridden it (I could probably recite all the doom buggy narrator’s dialogue) \*I \*couldn’t tell you what, if any, story it’s supposed to follow. Would be interesting if anyone here knows. I looked up the ride on [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haunted_Mansion). It doesn’t really explain a story for the sequence, it just describes a tour by the “Ghost Host” through the mansion. Also, the seance is not at the beginning. You enter the Foyer, go down the hallway, get in the DoomBuggies, go past the conservatory, through a corridore, and then get to the seance room. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2317 "2015-10-28T22:36:47Z")
Okay, I am more sure of this than I am about the story in Haunted Mansion. _It’s a Small World_. You know that washed out, mostly-white room at the end with the roller coaster and balloons: They’re DEAD. Those kids with wings? Angels. The room is a concept of heaven where all the kids of all races and languages will play together in the afterlife. I think I had always known that it was sort of heavenly, but I never put two and two together that if this is heaven, they’re a bunch of dead kids! ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2318 "2015-10-28T23:37:27Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Okay, I am more sure of this than I am about the story in Haunted Mansion. > > _It’s a Small World_. You know that washed out, mostly-white room at the end with the roller coaster and balloons: > > They’re DEAD. Those kids with wings? Angels. The room is a concept of heaven where all the kids of all races and languages will play together in the afterlife. > > I think I had always known that it was sort of heavenly, but I never put two and two together that if this is heaven, they’re a bunch of dead kids! Although it’s been a long time since I was on the ride, I don’t remember this. Also, Small World was originally built by Disney for the UNICEF pavilion at the 1964 New York World’s Fair. I would think that an international organization like UNICEF whose goal is to improve the lives of children while they’re on Earth would find the at-least-implicit message that peace, love, and understanding among people of different races, nations, religions, and languages is possible only after they’re dead somewhat off-putting. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2319 "2015-10-29T18:48:32Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > _It’s a Small World_. You know that washed out, mostly-white room at the end with the roller coaster and balloons: > > They’re DEAD. Those kids with wings? Angels. The room is a concept of heaven where all the kids of all races and languages will play together in the afterlife. This [room](http://www.thethemeparkguy.com/park/magic-kingdom/its-a-small-world-boat-ride-big.jpg)? [Other view](https://planmyorlandoholiday.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/ride-profile-its-a-small-world/)? [Another view](http://www.wdwluxuryguide.com/images/slideshows/_resized/SmallWorld.jpg).[Another](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jared422/3307165108/). I don’t see any angels. There are some dancing ladies with big [feathers](https://planmyorlandoholiday.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/smallworldfinale.png). Here is a [map](http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6sxn5DCK11qfw9vbo1_r2_1280.jpg) someone made. It labels them “French CanCan Dancers”. ---
**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2320 "2015-11-05T15:18:07Z")
The line “I’d like to meet his tailor” in Zevon’s _Werewolves of London_. It’s not because he’s a sharp dressed man. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=115) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=117)