# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2321 "2015-11-05T15:38:56Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > The line “I’d like to meet his tailor” in Zevon’s _Werewolves of London_. It’s not because he’s a sharp dressed man. :smack: So, um, why is it? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2322 "2015-11-05T15:39:33Z")
It couldn’t be more obvious if the he hit you over the head with it, but I just realized that the singer of Reminiscing IS reminiscing: Well that’s the way it began, we were hand-in-hand Glen Miller’s band was better than before We yelled and screamed for more And those Porter’s tunes made us dance across the room It ended all too soon On the way back home I promised you’d never be alone ---
**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2323 "2015-11-05T15:55:17Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > So, um, why is it? Because traditionally, every time the werewolf transformation occurs, the clothing is torn, right? Keeps his tailor busy. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2324 "2015-11-05T16:01:32Z")
Ah. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2325 "2015-11-05T16:57:42Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I just watched Blade Runner again and realized that most of the dialogue between Deckard and Bryant doesn’t make sense. If Deckard is such a great blade runner that he needs to be pulled out of retirement, shouldn’t he already know all about Nexus-6 replicants and their 4 year life span and not have to have Bryant explain it to him? > > For that matter, why would Tyrell or anyone at Tyrell Corporation need Decker to explain how a Voight-Kampff test works? He designed the damn things. It would be like explaining to Steve Jobs how an iPod works. I don’t get the confusion…the Nexus 6’s were newer, I always assumed that they were new enough that Deckard hadn’t dealt with one yet. So yes, a briefing on what’s come out since he retired seems in order. The Voigt-Kampff test wasn’t designed by Tyrell or the Corporation. He designed the replicants, and seemed interested in knowing about the imperfections that gave them away upon scrutiny (presumably to correct in a Nexus 7 model). Tyrell didn’t seem to particularly _want_ them to be detectable, so each model got better and better to evade the detection methods. The Nexus 6 with the implanted memories was pretty clearly an attempt to subvert the Voigt-Kampff, but ended up only making it more difficult (requiring more questions than before). FWIW, in the book, there was at least one other alternate test measuring a reflex response; which may have ended up being a more effective test as the N6s were getting trickier with faking or displaying some “normal”-enough responses to make the V-K kind of a PITA. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2326 "2015-11-05T17:16:14Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > Because traditionally, every time the werewolf transformation occurs, the clothing is torn, right? Keeps his tailor busy. So his tailor does fast repairs, that does not mean his work isn’t shoddy. Not buying it. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2327 "2015-11-05T18:49:37Z")
I’m not sure if the song “Werewolves of London” is meant to be ironic, amusing or an anology, but I’m pretty sure there’s no deeper meaning to any of the lines. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2328 "2015-11-05T19:32:57Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > Because traditionally, every time the werewolf transformation occurs, the clothing is torn, right? Keeps his tailor busy. I didn’t catch this either. I guess I just thought it was a word he picked to kind of sort of rhyme with Mayfair. Plus, Mayfair, being ritzy, would have gents that regularly get their clothes tailored. Or something. The real meaning is so much funnier 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2329 "2015-11-05T20:27:56Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > So his tailor does fast repairs, that does not mean his work isn’t shoddy. Not buying it. Well, Evil, I’m certainly not 100% sure, and not looking for an argument…I, like WOOKINPANUB, always thought it was tied to the Mayfair gents. He could want to meet his tailor because of his remarkably fast repairs, not because he wants to use him as his own. Plus, the “ha!/huh!” beforehand makes me think it’s meant as a joke line. Nice username/post combo there, furryman. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2330 "2015-11-05T20:59:01Z")
I always understood it as “I’d like to see who could make clothes for a guy who changes shape.” ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2331 "2015-11-05T21:41:06Z")
Nah, it’s because the werewolf is one dapper dude. And his hair is perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2332 "2015-11-05T21:52:08Z")
In the MASH episode “Kim,” when the little boy has wandered in the minefield, Hawkeye runs into Radar’s office looking for maps of the minefield - Radar tells him that the minefield maps are filed under “B” for “Boom.” Later, after Blake has directed Trapper halfway through the field with the map, Blake realizes that what he’s holding is a map of Berlin. I’ve seen that episode many times but it was only this year I realized that maps of Berlin are also filed under “B” so it makes sense that the hurried Hawkeye grabbed that map in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2333 "2015-11-05T23:17:36Z")
Not sure how obvious this is, but I never noticed that _Futurama_ killed off all members of the Waterfall family (over the course of multiple seasons) until I ran across [this page](http://theinfosphere.org/Waterfall_family) at a Futurama wiki. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2334 "2015-11-08T05:24:07Z")
I think the Waterfall thing is semi-obvious. My husband didn’t notice it at all and I did. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2335 "2015-11-08T10:10:35Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I just finished watching the \*\*\*Columbo \*\*\* episode “Forgotten Lady” for the umpteenth time and realized something: At least three of the actors were 1966 _ **Batman** _ alumni! There was the butler, Maurice Evans (aka “The Puzzler”); Linda Scott, the maid (aka “Moth”), and Francine York, the policewoman (aka “Miss Limpit”). Also with respect to this episode: The butler comes in to change reels on the movie after the murder is committed, and Janet Leigh has just repaired the break in the film. How could he possibly fail to notice that there was still \*lots _and_ lots \*of film left on the previous reel, due to the break? For that matter, how could he have started the _new_ reel while the old one still had at least twelve minutes to run?!? :dubious: 😕 :smack: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2336 "2015-11-28T17:17:18Z")
Since yesterday was Thanksgiving, there were two separate James Bond marathons on television – and on re-watch, sure, 007 picks up a classic British weapon during the big swordfight, but only after his oh-so-English opponent starts wielding a katana. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2337 "2015-11-28T17:47:35Z")
I didn’t know that katana were \*Korean \*weapons. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2338 "2015-11-28T18:03:26Z")
I figure they still deserve a point for trying. (And I figure they _were_ trying to throw it in as a clue: fault them for half-assing it, but that’s still a solid _half_.) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2339 "2015-12-24T08:17:36Z")
Annual viewing of **Die Hard**. Finally made connection between Hans Gruber and Franz Gruber (Silent Night). ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2340 "2015-12-24T16:52:37Z")
Not sure that’s really a connection. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=118)