# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 119
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2361 "2016-01-25T18:28:35Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > It’s the same parallel universe in which there was an alternate ending to _Big_. Be quiet. Any mention of that will bring out the true believers. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2362 "2016-01-26T00:33:11Z")
Doesn’t entirely fit, but it’s close enough. The game Final Fantasy XII borrows heavily from Star Wars\*…this isn’t what I realized…I noticed it on my first playthru, as soon as [del]Darth Vader[/del]Judge Gabranth entered. No, a little while ago, I got the urge to listen to the Star Wars theme on YouTube. … FFXII even carried the Star Wars theme through the format of the overture. - Young man yearning for adventure hooks up with a charming rogue and his non-human co-pilot, they rescue a princess who’s leading a rebellion against the racist evil empire (whose main general is in face-covering armour and has a familial connection to one of the heroes), using mystical abilities that were thought lost. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2363 "2016-01-26T01:22:11Z")
I never played XII, but looking at YouTube, you’re right! ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2364 "2016-01-27T00:34:41Z")
> [@minor7flat5](#): > > Wow… > > That’s shocking. > > Decades of thinking “He hates everything” was “He eats anything” > > In my defense, in watching the commercial on YouTube, I think the “He hates everything” sort of sounds like “He eats everything” and my kid mind obviously heard that. I had to go round and round as a kid, because it sounds like they say “He eats everything”, but then it doesn’t make sense that he likes it. “He won’t eat it, he eats everything.” 😕 > [@Nobody](#): > > :eek: I never thought of it that way before either. > > But then, why is one of them having roast beef? Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2365 "2016-01-27T01:03:17Z")
This is entirely folk etymology, but years ago I came to the conclusion that the piggys rhyme is an anti-gluttony fable. It tells in alternate lines the fate of two pigs. The first pig ate a lot The second pig didn’t The first pig was taken to market The second pig wasn’t The first pig screamed as he was slaughtered. Which would you rather be, my child? [I have mentioned this theory before.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10867032&highlight=gluttony#post10867032) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2366 "2016-02-03T16:49:08Z")
Watching\*\*\* Frasier\*\*\*, it just occurred to me that “Daphne Moon” sounds an awful lot like “Daffy Loon.” ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2367 "2016-02-03T17:19:57Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Watching\*\*\* Frasier\*\*\*, it just occurred to me that “Daphne Moon” sounds an awful lot like “Daffy Loon.” Sailor Moon’s name is Usagi Tsukino, Tsukino can be translated as moon. Wonder if they’re related.😉 ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2368 "2016-02-04T00:57:48Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > The A.A. Milne poem, later turned into a song, has the line: > > King John put up a notice > Lost, stolen or strayed. > James James Morrison’s mother > Seems to have been mislaid. > > Mother went to the end of the town after being warned not to. It’s obviously a bad place. > > Could “mislaid” refer to being “mis-laid” or raped and disposed of? She has been heard of since, and “if people go down to the end of the town, well what can anyone do?” > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That or perhaps it’s the sound-alike connection between mislaid and slayed. Back when I was a kid (and Chad was still in the trio), my sister had several of their records - including the one with that song. It wasn’t until several years later, when I came across the Milne poem, that I realised the words weren’t really King John put up a notice Lost, stolen or slain. James James Morrison’s mother She seems to have been mislain. ---
**Author:** ![Cardboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Cardboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardboard)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2369 "2016-02-04T01:00:47Z")
Zero became a star at the end of Nightmare Before Christmas because Jack and Sally became a couple and Jack didn’t need Zero to be his only friend anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2370 "2016-02-04T05:55:22Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > But then, why is one of them having roast beef? Because the cow went to market last week. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2371 "2016-02-04T06:02:13Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Because the cow went to market last week. 😛 But seriously, I never heard of feeding pigs roast beef to fatten them up. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2372 "2016-02-05T00:06:45Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I was just shocked out of my childhood innocence by a meme on Facebook. > > The little piggy who went to market wasn’t going shopping. No… THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!!! NOooooooooooooooooooooooo!:eek: > [@Rilchiam](#): > > Annual viewing of **Die Hard**. Finally made connection between Hans Gruber and Franz Gruber (Silent Night). That they’re here to \*\*PUMP! YOU UP!\*\*? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2373 "2016-02-05T00:41:09Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > 😛 > > But seriously, I never heard of feeding pigs roast beef to fatten them up. not the steak, the rest of the cow… [The infected cow’s brain was presumably ground up and fed to chickens and pigs](http://www.thenazareneway.com/vegetarian/mad_cow_disease_what_the_meat_in.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2374 "2016-02-05T10:04:53Z")
> [@JKilez](#): > > As I stated, the stills do not do the comparison justice. It is not just walking through fog, it is how the riders approach the camera, slowly materializing with their clan flags on their backs. It is a scene that makes you exclaim, “I have seen this before!” Yes, in “All Quite on the Western Front”. No, not exactly, but when I watched “All Quite”, it was like watching a homage to every modern movie that has that scene. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2375 "2016-02-05T12:17:47Z")
I’m trying to imagine what the movie “All Quite on the Western Front” would be like. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2376 "2016-02-05T12:45:43Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > I’m trying to imagine what the movie “All Quite on the Western Front” would be like. Like “All Quiet on the Western Front”, but noisier. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2377 "2016-02-05T23:15:18Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > I’m trying to imagine what the movie “All Quite on the Western Front” would be like. Everyone would definitely be on the Western Front, no ifs, ands or buts. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2378 "2016-02-06T02:05:34Z")
I am, just this moment, watching the first series of Red Dwarf. In the first episode, after Lister was let out of stasis, he ate bits of the piles of dust that were the remains of the crew… Which was a funny gag, but… Did Lister make a habit of eating random piles of dirt just lying around in the ship? I mean, I know he’s a slob and all, but…that’s a bit beyond, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2379 "2016-02-06T02:41:24Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > This is entirely folk etymology, but years ago I came to the conclusion that the piggys rhyme is an anti-gluttony fable. It tells in alternate lines the fate of two pigs. . . . There are FIVE piggies. And tickling at the end. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2380 "2016-02-08T18:23:04Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > I am, just this moment, watching the first series of Red Dwarf. > > In the first episode, after Lister was let out of stasis, he ate bits of the piles of dust that were the remains of the crew… Which was a funny gag, but… > > Did Lister make a habit of eating random piles of dirt just lying around in the ship? > > I mean, I know he’s a slob and all, but…that’s a bit beyond, y’know. He was trying to figure out what they were, and he’s fine with tasting as one method. He wasn’t eating them for sustenance. It was like seeing a bowl of fine white crystals and checking to see if it’s sugar or salt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=118) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=120)