# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2741 "2017-06-22T19:04:06Z")

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> [@Annoying\_Buzz](#):
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> In Pink Floyd’s _Welcome to the Machine_, I’d always interpreted the line “scouting for boys” as unsavory, but it didn’t quite fit the tone of the lines around it.
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> Until just recently (about 30 years after first hearing the song) I realized they were referring to the Boy Scout’s manual, “Scouting for Boys”. The meaning was just that the song’s subject had been raised in a conventional, affluent, wholesome family environment.

Just gotta add that,

“You bought a guitar to punish your ma”

refers to typical teen acting out.

The line

“You didn’t like school, you know your nobody’s fool”

caused me some confusion.  
I used to think that he was saying that he was no fool to distrust the value of what he was being taught. Now I’m older, and I think it refers to more vanilla teen rebellion (I.e. A stronger version of “You think your nobody’s fool”.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2742 "2017-06-24T03:56:54Z")

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> [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](#):
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> “Would I?!!!”
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> “Harelip!”

This is why SDMB needs a Like Button.  
😃

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2743 "2017-06-24T05:30:30Z")

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Okay, confession time. Until re-opening this thread just now and seeing the posts, I always thought the line in California Dreaming was “The preacher liked my coat”.

Stop laughing. It sort of makes sense. I figured the singer as saying the preacher was judging him based on the quality of his clothing rather than his quality as a person.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2744 "2017-06-24T05:40:09Z")

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As long as I’m embarrassing myself, here’s another one. I watch Facts videos on YouTube. And there’s a woman in the videos who, at some point, cut her hair short and started wearing glasses. And somehow, I missed the fact that she had changed her appearance. I thought it was a different woman.

In my defense, they switch people around a lot in the videos and nobody appears on a regular basis. But I still feel like one of the people at the Daily Planet who couldn’t figure out Clark Kent and Superman are the same person.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2745 "2017-06-25T22:29:27Z")

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Can you link to both looks for this woman?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2746 "2017-06-28T16:58:49Z")

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Les Miserables’s reprise lyrics:

Do you hear the people sing  
Lost in the valley of the night  
It is the music of a people  
Who are climbing to the light

For the wretched of the earth  
There is a flame that never dies  
Even the darkest night will end  
And the sun will rise.

They will live again in freedom  
In the garden of the Lord  
We will walk behind the plough-share  
We will put away the sword  
The chain will be broken  
And all men will have their reward!

While most people get the plough-share/sword Bible reference, the valley of the night is a reference to “as I go through the valley of the shadow of death” and “the garden of the Lord” is a reference to Eden.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2747 "2017-07-09T15:55:39Z")

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Fleetwood Mac’s _Rumors_ has been one of my favorite albums of all time. Since 1977, I have probably bought this one at least four times.

Doing some work now, decided to play some of the songs on YouTube. And, 40 years after it was released, I just noticed [Mick Fleetwood’s dangling “testicles”](https://goo.gl/images/WTIDqR) on the album cover.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2748 "2017-07-12T00:02:23Z")

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Just this evening it dawned on me that the voice of Fozzie Bear is provided by Frank OZ.

Oh, and if it turns out I’ve already posted that in this thread, please don’t tell me.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2749 "2017-07-16T22:30:40Z")

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Just realized this after watching _E.T._ on the Sundance channel (still in progress as of this post): When E.T. goes out with the boys on Halloween night and sees a kid dressed up as Yoda, a few bars from Yoda’s theme from _Empire Strikes Back_ play.

Granted, I haven’t seen _E.T._ a million times or anything; probably less than ten. Still made me laugh with delight, though!

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2750 "2017-08-18T14:01:12Z")

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As a little kid, probably understandably, I didn’t quite get the intended meaning of a line in Sam Cooke’s Another Saturday Night…

“Instead of being my deliverance, she had a strange resemblance to a cat named Frankenstein.”

Why is there a cat named Frankenstein? Did this girl look like a cat?

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2751 "2017-08-18T14:14:05Z")

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> [@johnspartan](#):
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> As a little kid, probably understandably, I didn’t quite get the intended meaning of a line in Sam Cooke’s Another Saturday Night…
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> “Instead of being my deliverance, she had a strange resemblance to a cat named Frankenstein.”
> 
> Why is there a cat named Frankenstein? Did this girl look like a cat?

Until just now, I didn’t realize this was originally a Sam Cooke song. I was only familiar with the version by Cat Stevens (who isn’t a literal cat either).

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2752 "2017-08-18T18:52:08Z")

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> [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](#):
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> I think it refers to more vanilla teen rebellion (I.e. A stronger version of “You think your nobody’s fool”.

It would make a lot more sense if it were “ **you’re** nobody’s fool.”

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2753 "2017-08-18T20:04:41Z")

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> [@johnspartan](#):
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> “Instead of being my deliverance, she had a strange resemblance to a cat named Frankenstein.”
> 
> Why is there a cat named Frankenstein? Did this girl look like a cat?

I think that’s “cat” as in a slang word for “dude”, “guy”, “hip gent”, “cool cat”.

He’s just saying she’s ugly.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2754 "2017-08-18T20:31:04Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> Can you link to both looks for this woman?

Sorry, missed this post before.

The women in question is Blaithin de Burca. Here she is with [short hair and glasses](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCY77jnXkAA2hwl.jpg). Here she is with [long hair and no glasses](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dn27wU89NFA/sddefault.jpg).

Yes, obviously it’s the same woman. But in my defense, the series has about eight different redheaded women in it.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2755 "2017-08-18T21:37:18Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I think that’s “cat” as in a slang word for “dude”, “guy”, “hip gent”, “cool cat”.
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> He’s just saying she’s ugly.

Far out, Daddy-O! 🆒

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2756 "2017-08-19T05:34:03Z")

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Thought of another one. In the ELO song “Livin’ Thing,” for some reason I used to hear “Ortega or die!” in place of “I’m taking a dive” and wondered if this was some Mexican revolutionary.

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2757 "2017-08-19T19:12:54Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I think that’s “cat” as in a slang word for “dude”, “guy”, “hip gent”, “cool cat”.
> 
> He’s just saying she’s ugly.

Sure. But for a long time I didn’t know/recognize the reference  
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**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2758 "2017-08-20T05:19:43Z")

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I just realized that the Taj Mahal is a \*\*Muslim \*\*structure! :eek:

I had always assumed it was associated with a native Indian religion like Hinduism, if it wasn’t just secular. I guess the minarets should have been a dead giveaway! :smack:

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2759 "2017-08-20T21:40:42Z")

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Watching **Despicable Me** again and I just noticed that in the control room full of minions one of them grabs another one and kisses it when they celebrate that Gru made it into space.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2760 "2017-08-20T22:55:11Z")

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**Weird Science** , very end. Parents are coming home and house is magically coming back together. Gary and Wyatt have on their “cool” 80s clothes and haircuts upstairs as they watch the ICBM sink through the self-repairing flooring.

But when they walk down the stairs to greet Wyatts parents, they are back to their normal “dork” clothes and haircuts.

All this time, just noticed this now. :smack:

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