# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 144
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2861 "2017-12-17T03:36:52Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > [Jack isn’t just Tyler Durden. He’s Marla Singer, too.](http://www.jackdurden.com/) Shut the front door! Holy hell, watched that movie 500 quadrillion times and it _never_ occurred to me that Marla wasn’t real either. Mind. Blown. OK, here’s my (much lamer) contribution: Gerry Rafferty’s “Right Down the Line” has two scientific falsehoods in one line of lyrics: “You’re as constant as the Northern star, the brightest light that shines.” Er… no. Precession of the axis, and Sirius. (Like I said - lame. But I heard the song last night, and caught this one.) ---
**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2862 "2017-12-21T02:54:02Z")
I don’t think I ever thought about the pretty obvious double entendre in the chorus of It’s Raining Men… I’m gonna go out and let myself get absolutely soaking wet… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2863 "2018-01-04T19:31:35Z")
I have been listening to a lot of Jimmy Buffet on my commute. He often says “take it away…” (fill in name of soloist). But I was confused who the heck was Karl Reevers… Coral Reefers, the band. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2864 "2018-01-04T22:34:10Z")
It recently occurred to me that there is a common expression “time to kill”, as in, “I’ve got some time to kill, let’s see if we can get that wall painted”. And there’s a John Grisham book/movie “A Time To Kill”. Is there a connection there? I don’t see what it would be, but… ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2865 "2018-01-04T23:14:26Z")
I was watching the original _Ghostbusters_ the other night. There’s a moment in the scene where they get their first big client, the hotel. They’re surprised by a housekeeper with her cart, and she’s got a spray bottle of some cleaning fluid. They shoot her cart and start a few small fires. A few seconds later, after they apologize to her, you can see her in the background trying to put out the fire with her spray bottle. I never noticed it before, thought it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2866 "2018-01-04T23:30:48Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > It recently occurred to me that there is a common expression “time to kill”, as in, “I’ve got some time to kill, let’s see if we can get that wall painted”. And there’s a John Grisham book/movie “A Time To Kill”. > > Is there a connection there? I don’t see what it would be, but… It may be a small bit of wordplay, but the book is about a man who stands trial for murdering two men who raped his underage daughter. In other words, a bad time that might drive someone to kill, or at least that’s how I interpreted it. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2867 "2018-01-04T23:54:22Z")
I’d assume “A Time to Kill” would be a reference to _Ecclesiastes_\*: _To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal…_ \*Or the Byrds if you’re so inclined ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2868 "2018-01-05T00:29:06Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I’d assume “A Time to Kill” would be a reference to _Ecclesiastes_\*: Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2869 "2018-01-05T02:33:29Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I was watching the original _Ghostbusters_ the other night. There’s a moment in the scene where they get their first big client, the hotel. They’re surprised by a housekeeper with her cart, and she’s got a spray bottle of some cleaning fluid. They shoot her cart and start a few small fires. A few seconds later, after they apologize to her, you can see her in the background trying to put out the fire with her spray bottle. > > I never noticed it before, thought it was funny. That movie is full of subtle gems. The last time I watched it, I noticed a package of Stay-Puft marshmallows in someone’s grocery bag. (Probably Dana? Can’t recall.) Best movie of all time. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2870 "2018-01-05T12:55:53Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > That movie is full of subtle gems. The last time I watched it, I noticed a package of Stay-Puft marshmallows in someone’s grocery bag. (Probably Dana? Can’t recall.) > > Best movie of all time. Sigourney Weaver’s character. Through some fluke I noticed the obvious placement of that marshmallow bag with its made-up name and knew it would be significant the very first time I saw the movie. Of course, it being brand new and all, nobody knew about the “Stay Puft Marshmallow Man” yet. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2871 "2018-01-06T23:29:04Z")
Just realized that, on South Park, Mr. Mackey’s name is very similar to his favorite phrase. M’kay? ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2872 "2018-01-07T01:59:15Z")
This is really stupid, but I only recently realized that The Beatles intentionally misspelled their name as a play off “the beat”. Completely blipped over that for decades and didn’t even realize it was a misspelling of “Beetles.” I probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive. ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2873 "2018-01-07T02:03:10Z")
> [@Jennshark](#): > > Whilst sitting in traffic, contemplating my steering wheel, it occurred to me that the BMW logo looks kind of like stylized propellers. > > Google confirmed that the logo is, indeed, a stylized propeller because BMW started out as an aviations mechanics company :smack: duhhhhhhhh! Really? I Googled this after reading your post and the first thing that came up was: “The original BMW logo was designed in-house at Bayerische Motoren Werke AG in 1927. Whilst many think its checkered design is representative of a spinning aircraft propeller, it is in fact a combination of the logo of the Rapp Motorenwerke, from which the BMW company grew, and the colours of the Bavarian flag.” > **[The myth of the BMW logo](https://www.creativebloq.com/logo-design/myth-bmw-logo-11135412)** > > The German car maker's mark hasn't changed much since 1917, but it is not based on a spinning propeller as many think... ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2874 "2018-01-07T02:05:48Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > OK, not really discovered since I had to look it up, but until yesterday I never knew the meaning of the 80’s pop rock song “Kyrie” by Mr. Mister. When that song first came out, there was an article in the local paper about misheard song lyrics and titles. One disc-jockey said that a listener somehow misheard “Kyrie Eleison” as “Rip Her Legs Off” and kept calling in to request it. ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2875 "2018-01-07T02:08:16Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > After 50+ years of watching ‘ **Leave It To Beaver** ’, something just dawned on me. > > Eddie Haskell frequently makes cracks about ‘the warden’. (“Hey, is the warden home?”, “So the warden let you out tonight”). > > Today, out of the blue, it occurred to me that ‘warden’ was a play on Ward Cleaver’s name. > > Anyone else make (or miss) this connection? > mmm Huh! ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2876 "2018-01-07T02:12:10Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I watched the movie **Hello, dolly!** yesterday. Although I’ve seen the play onstage (ages ago, during its initial run on Broadway), and I’ve seen bits and pieces of the film, I’ve never watched it all the way through. > > Irene Molloy, the milliner, and Minnie Fay, her young assistant, re walking down the street in New York. Irene looks over at Minnie, sees what she’s doing, and chastises her. “Minnie! Stop eating that banana! Men are looking at us for the _wrong reason_!” > > It took a moment before that sunk in. It’s a surprising _double entendre_ for a Gene Kelly-directed movie\* from 1969. (I had a friend who was brought up in a “proper” New York girl’s school. They were taught to eat bananas using spoon from a plate, to avoid any suggestive impressions) I only realized in the last couple of years that one of the two young shopkeepers they meet is a very young Michael Crawford, later to achieve fame in Andrew Lloyd Webber’s _Phantom of the Opera._ ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2877 "2018-01-07T02:14:21Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I know I’m replying to posts that are a little old now. > The title is more brilliant than that when you consider the entire novel was an analogy of the VietnamWar and the authors feelings of alienation when he returned. At the time Vietnam was our longest war, our forever war. Now the current conflict is sometimes being described as the Forever War without many knowing where the term comes from. The title of the novel was later ripped-off for a non-fiction book about the Iraq War. Haldeman himself was a Vietnam veteran, of course, serving as a Combat Engineer. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2878 "2018-01-07T02:15:18Z")
Re: _Yellow Submarine_ If all of your friends are aboard, how can many more of them live next door? ---
**Author:** ![Arizona\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Arizona\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arizona_Mike)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2879 "2018-01-07T03:29:29Z")
I watched the first showing of A Charlie Brown Christmas when I was a kid, and have watched it almost every year since, but did not notice until a couple of years ago when it was pointed out to me that Linus carries his security blanket throughout the special (even when Snoopy violently swings him around by it) except for one scene - when he walks onstage to recite the Gospel of Luke. At the moment when he says “Fear Not!” he drops the blanket; “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior; 'tis Christ the Lord.” - as if for that one moment he doesn’t need the external security of his blanket… ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2880 "2018-01-07T03:35:23Z")
> [@Arizona\_Mike](#): > > I watched the first showing of A Charlie Brown Christmas when I was a kid, and have watched it almost every year since, but did not notice until a couple of years ago when it was pointed out to me that Linus carries his security blanket throughout the special (even when Snoopy violently swings him around by it) except for one scene - when he walks onstage to recite the Gospel of Luke. At the moment when he says “Fear Not!” he drops the blanket; “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior; 'tis Christ the Lord.” - as if for that one moment he doesn’t need the external security of his blanket… That’s wonderful, thank you for noticing that. \* “For perfect love doth cast out fear… and the random blankie.”\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=143) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=145)