# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2942 "2018-02-27T14:19:50Z")

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The Young Sheldon rerun last Thursday ended up with Sheldon in the car with his dad and just freaking out over the lyrics to the song the car radio was playing “You ain’t never seen nothing like the Mighty Quinn.” He blasts the idiot who wrote such lyrics.

Sheldon Cooper’s life ambition is to win a Nobel Prize. Well, guess what. The guy that wrote those lyrics is a Nobel Laurette. HA! HA!

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**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2943 "2018-02-28T03:02:49Z")

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Sheldon does not consider biologists “real” scientists. Would he even care about a literature Nobel? It’s kind of like Eminem or Three-6 Mafia being able to claim an Oscar but Alfred Hitchcock can’t.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2944 "2018-02-28T03:40:27Z")

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While I haven’t watched it a million times, I’d say my favorite epsiode of the series “Black Mirror” is “Nosedive” starring Bryce Dallas Howard. Last weekend I was introducing a friend to the series by showing it to him and realized two different things.

1. Lacie (Howard)'s nervous breakdown begins in earnest when she screams at the cos players on their way to a sci-fi convention. It’s a hilarious moment, but it’s also a deeply symbolic one – Lacie berates a bunch of geeks who are dressing up and pretending they are fictional characters from a fictional world (the TV show), which is kind of like everyone in the social media obsessed world (and especially Lacie) have always done.

2. Lacie’s journey to get to the wedding hits the first, biggest hurdle when the flight she was supposed to take was canceled. The ticket agent mentions something about “an incident with a passenger on the other end.” Thus, Lacie sets out on an increasingly soul-crushing journey to the vacation destination where the wedding is taking place. Of course, she gets there but ultimately ends up in jail…where there’s a guy in a cell opposite her, who apparently shares her frustration and rage. It dawned on me that he’s the passenger who had an incident at the airport Lacie was supposed to fly into!

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2945 "2018-02-28T05:46:46Z")

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> [@caligulathegod](#):
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> Sheldon does not consider biologists “real” scientists. Would he even care about a literature Nobel? It’s kind of like Eminem or Three-6 Mafia being able to claim an Oscar but Alfred Hitchcock can’t.

Deep down inside, it would gall him no end.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2946 "2018-02-28T07:10:34Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> The guy that wrote those lyrics is a Nobel Laurette. HA! HA!

Is that anything like a Nobel Laureate? :dubious: 😕

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2947 "2018-03-10T14:26:28Z")

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Yes. And Bob (You ain’t never seen nothing like the Might Quinn) Dylan has one.

One for the “I am a total idiot” file: I have lived in NJ for over 30 years. I am a personal friend of someone who used to play for the New York Jets professional football team.

Today I glanced at the TV at the laudromat and saw the [Jets logo](https://www.google.com/search?q=jets+logo&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Fu3qyK_0J1F1gM%253A%252CW67SpLBp5zbfVM%252C_&usg=__17DZnEwrADLrita3EoCnqG5S9wc%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwib6vyg-uHZAhWKnlMKHeJ_ALQQ9QEIOTAD#imgrc=Fu3qyK_0J1F1gM:). And I realized the oblong shape is supposed to represent a football. Well, duh…

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2948 "2018-03-10T16:13:12Z")

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Here are the first lyrics from _Guys and Dolls_:  
“I got the horse right here, the name is Paul Revere…”

I’m suddenly convinced it’s same “Little Horsey” named Paul Revere from the eponymous Beastie Boys song. He was a racehorse in prohibition-era Chicago before turning to a life of crime.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2949 "2018-03-17T17:21:25Z")

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I don’t really do this, but I’m kind of double posting the same information, but this qualifies for two threads.

Spoilers for **the Last Jedi** , but you did mark this open spoilers. Anyway:

You can see the moment Kylo Ren decides to spin Luke’s light saber and kill Snoke that way. Rey had his saber pulled from her and it spins in front of him. He sees it and looks up with the idea in his head.

[I didn’t notice this in theater. You can see it here.](https://i.redd.it/ixqwv7oty6m01.gif)

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2950 "2018-03-17T17:54:51Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> He was a racehorse in prohibition-era Chicago before turning to a life of crime.

Say what?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2951 "2018-03-17T18:26:34Z")

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I’m not sure whether this counts, but I’m erring on the side of “yeah”.

So: you know how a grocery store has meat and milk and fruits and bread? But if we’re talking about a truly colossal Wal-Mart, then it’s _also_ a sporting-goods store, with bats and balls and bullets and bicycles; and pharmacists work there, so it’s a fully-stocked drug store as well as a shoe store; and you can buy _televisions_ there, and you can buy _jewelry_ there, and you can buy _furniture_ there, and et cetera. Halloween costumes! Mystery novels! Power tools! Cell phones! Blue jeans!

So I started hearing off-hand references in the media to The Internet Of Things…

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2952 "2018-03-18T18:30:49Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’m not sure whether this counts, but I’m erring on the side of “yeah”.
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> So: you know how a grocery store has meat and milk and fruits and bread? But if we’re talking about a truly colossal Wal-Mart, then it’s _also_ a sporting-goods store, with bats and balls and bullets and bicycles; and pharmacists work there, so it’s a fully-stocked drug store as well as a shoe store; and you can buy _televisions_ there, and you can buy _jewelry_ there, and you can buy _furniture_ there, and et cetera. Halloween costumes! Mystery novels! Power tools! Cell phones! Blue jeans!
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> So I started hearing off-hand references in the media to The Internet Of Things…

Well, maybe it’s also a reference to the idea that you can find nearly everything on the Internet.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2953 "2018-03-18T19:37:09Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’m not sure whether this counts, but I’m erring on the side of “yeah”.
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> So: you know how a grocery store has meat and milk and fruits and bread? But if we’re talking about a truly colossal Wal-Mart, then it’s _also_ a sporting-goods store, with bats and balls and bullets and bicycles; and pharmacists work there, so it’s a fully-stocked drug store as well as a shoe store; and you can buy _televisions_ there, and you can buy _jewelry_ there, and you can buy _furniture_ there, and et cetera. Halloween costumes! Mystery novels! Power tools! Cell phones! Blue jeans!
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> So I started hearing off-hand references in the media to The Internet Of Things…

I don’t understand what you’re getting at here–can you explain further?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2954 "2018-03-18T20:44:37Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I don’t understand what you’re getting at here–can you explain further?

Per wiki, The Internet Of Things _“is the network of physical devices, vehicles, home appliances and other items embedded with electronics, software, sensors, actuators, and connectivity which enables these objects to connect and exchange data.”_

But upon first hearing casual references to it, I thought it was a snarky comeback: _you know how folks say you can find anything on the internet? Hey, come visit this here marketplace; you can find anything where it, physically, is. That’s why I call it “The Internet Of Things”: you can find anything, which is as good as the internet; plus you can pick it up and walk off with it — since it’s, y’know, stuff._

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2955 "2018-03-18T22:21:05Z")

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I happened to watch a [clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUnbVSuI2ZU) from _Age of Ultron_ today and noticed something I had missed before. There’s the after battle scene where the group is hosting a party. Bruce and Natasha have a conversation at the bar and Steve tells Bruce afterwards that Natasha is interested in him and he should pursue it.

The next scene in the movie is after the party and people end up trying to lift Thor’s hammer. What I noticed for the first time is that at the beginning of the scene you see in the background Bruce talking to Natasha.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2956 "2018-03-25T02:41:29Z")

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Well, this is about a game I’ve played for years and since there’s not a similar thread in the gaming forums, here goes:

One of my favorites is _Railroad Tycoon 3_, a game I loved so much back in the day that I did two things I’ve never done before for any game in my life:

1. Go to the developer forums and argue about game mechanics
2. Create a mod

Since it’s original release I have bought multiple copies of this game, eventually landing on Steam, where I was playing it tonight.

… and realized that I needed water towers on BOTH sides of double-railed track, that the water tower ONLY works on the side on which you laid it.

:smack:

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2957 "2018-03-26T06:02:37Z")

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Another one I just learned.

I’ve been around since the song “Delta Dawn” was released back in the seventies. And I always thought the lyrics were _“She’s forty-one and her daddy still calls her baby/  
All the folks around town will say she’s crazy.”_

But I just happened to look it up. The actual lyrics are _“She’s forty-one and her daddy still calls her baby/All the folks around Brownsville say she’s crazy.”_

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2958 "2018-03-26T14:27:17Z")

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Just realized that Terry Pratchett’s _The Fifth Elephant_ is probably a pun on the movie title _The Fifth Element_.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2959 "2018-03-31T03:28:29Z")

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In RWBY, Ruby and Yang have a pet corgi named Zwei.

It wasn’t until rewatching Cowboy Bebop that it actually clicked [WHY](http://cowboybebop.wikia.com/wiki/Ein) he was named that.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2960 "2018-04-02T20:32:15Z")

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The title of the anti-war movie _ **The King of Hearts** _ is a reference to the only king in a deck of cards who doesn’t hold a sword.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/2961 "2018-04-02T20:41:32Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> The title of the anti-war movie _ **The King of Hearts** _ is a reference to the only king in a deck of cards who doesn’t hold a sword.

Indeed he does:  
[![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/96/45/719645edf82b89a204411afe20e38931.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/96/45/719645edf82b89a204411afe20e38931.jpg)

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