# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 152
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3022 "2018-06-20T19:14:44Z")
Another dream shattered. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3023 "2018-06-20T20:24:29Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Having worked for several decades in the prison system, I can tell you that your belief that they’re places were spontaneous song and dance routines normally occur is incorrect. If memory serves, the prison scene ISN’T spontaneous. It’s them doing a performance IN prison. The restaurant scene is, I think, the only scene where it really breaks randomly into song like musicals often do. The other musical numbers are all just actual musical performances. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3024 "2018-06-20T20:30:20Z")
> [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](#): > > I just realized that the classic game “Tetris” is so-named because all the pieces are composed of 4 little squares. > > ::dopesmack:: Random related Tetris trivia: The shapes are called “tetrominos,” and Tetris includes all the possible shapes that can be made with four squares. The designer was inspired by a traditional physical puzzle made out of five-square pieces called pentominos. The first version of Tetris didn’t have line-clearing. You were just trying to fill the space until full and your score was based on how few empty spaces you had left. Line-clearing was added because the game ended too quick and was the thing that made Tetris massively addicting. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3025 "2018-06-20T20:50:02Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Having worked for several decades in the prison system, I can tell you that your belief that they’re places were spontaneous song and dance routines normally occur is incorrect. Well, now I don’t even want to go. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3026 "2018-06-21T00:43:35Z")
This is really reaching back, but here goes. I liked the 1977 three part miniseries “Jesus of Nazareth” Just about the opening scene is a worship service in the Nazareth synagogue. As the service ends the Torah scroll is wrapped in a cloth and tucked into a niche in the wall, which is then covered by a sort of curtain. Later on, when Jesus has been born and the shepherds arrive to see Him Joseph takes the infant, wrapped in a winding cloth, out of the manger, which is a niche in the wall of the stable(a hillside cave) He’d placed a cloth over the hole, presumably to protect against drafts. It seems the story must have been referring to this baby as the fulfillment of the law. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3027 "2018-06-21T13:10:15Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > If memory serves, the prison scene ISN’T spontaneous. It’s them doing a performance IN prison. > > The restaurant scene is, I think, the only scene where it really breaks randomly into song like musicals often do. The other musical numbers are all just actual musical performances. Right. The prison scene starts off with a performance by The Blues Brothers Band, and then breaks into a riot (which never happens in prison?). The church scene is a bit overplayed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3028 "2018-06-21T18:18:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Having worked for several decades in the prison system, I can tell you that your belief that they’re places were spontaneous song and dance routines normally occur is incorrect. Actually, that wasnt spontaneous. It appeared to be a show they were putting on, OKed by the staff. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3029 "2018-06-21T18:19:49Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Right. The prison scene starts off with a performance by The Blues Brothers Band, and then breaks into a riot (which never happens in prison?). > > The church scene is a bit overplayed. Those Singing churches (often Baptist) do get pretty exciting. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3030 "2018-07-06T05:59:58Z")
Not sure if I’d quite call this obvious, but I saw a little bit of _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade_ on TV the other day. When Indy first meets Donovan, there’s the following exchange: > [@](#): > > Walter Donovan: As you can now see, Dr. Jones, we are on the verge of completing a quest that began almost two thousand years ago. We’re just one step away. > > Indiana Jones: That’s usually when the ground falls out from underneath your feet. I had to leave before the end, but doesn’t the ground actually fall out from under Donovan’s feet when he’s literally one step from the Grail? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3031 "2018-07-06T23:26:33Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Not sure if I’d quite call this obvious, but I saw a little bit of _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade_ on TV the other day. When Indy first meets Donovan, there’s the following exchange:I had to leave before the end, but doesn’t the ground actually fall out from under Donovan’s feet when he’s literally one step from the Grail? No, it doesn’t. He and Dr. Schneider are looking at all the “Grails” and Donovan says he’s not an historian, he doesn’t know what it looks like. Dr. Schneider offers to select the real Grail(heh, heh) and picks one out. Donovan remarks on it’s beauty and dips water, drinking from the Grail. Then he shrivels up and dies in best FX fashion. As the knight says “He chose…poorly” Of course Indy chooses the real Grail, snatching up a plain earthenwork cup, saying “That’s the cup of a carpenter” ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3032 "2018-07-06T23:28:06Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Not sure if I’d quite call this obvious, but I saw a little bit of _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade_ on TV the other day. When Indy first meets Donovan, there’s the following exchange:I had to leave before the end, but doesn’t the ground actually fall out from under Donovan’s feet when he’s literally one step from the Grail? No, it doesn’t. He and Dr. Schneider are looking at all the “Grails” and Donovan says he’s not an historian, he doesn’t know what it looks like. Dr. Schneider offers to select the real Grail(heh, heh) and picks one out. Donovan remarks on it’s beauty and dips water, drinking from the Grail. Then he shrivels up and dies in best FX fashion. As the knight says “He chose…poorly” Of course Indy chooses the real Grail, snatching up a plain earthenwork cup, saying “That’s the cup of a carpenter” later on Dr. Schneider does fall into a crevasse where the real Grail has tumbled ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3033 "2018-07-07T00:20:46Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > No, it doesn’t. He and Dr. Schneider are looking at all the “Grails” and Donovan says he’s not an historian, he doesn’t know what it looks like. Dr. Schneider offers to select the real Grail(heh, heh) and picks one out. Donovan remarks on it’s beauty and dips water, drinking from the Grail. Then he shrivels up and dies in best FX fashion. > > As the knight says “He chose…poorly” > > Of course Indy chooses the real Grail, snatching up a plain earthenwork cup, saying “That’s the cup of a carpenter” > > later on Dr. Schneider does fall into a crevasse where the real Grail has tumbled That’s right; thanks, I’d forgotten. But the ground falls out from under somebody, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3034 "2018-07-07T00:45:21Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > That’s right; thanks, I’d forgotten. But the ground falls out from under somebody, doesn’t it? One of the tests is walking through a tiled hall, where each tile has a letter on it. You’re only supposed to step on the letters that spell out Jehovah, but Indy forgets that in Latin, “Jehovah” begins with an “I” and plunges through the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3035 "2018-07-07T02:32:21Z")
[If you watch how the light saber spins here in the Last Jedi and Kylo’s reaction, you can understand how he got the method for killing Snoke.](https://youtu.be/OHOTQy10pi0?t=66) He does this just a few moments later. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3036 "2018-07-07T03:30:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > One of the tests is walking through a tiled hall, where each tile has a letter on it. You’re only supposed to step on the letters that spell out Jehovah, but Indy forgets that in Latin, “Jehovah” begins with an “I” and plunges through the floor. Yeah, that part I remember. But after Indy has the Grail and heals his dad, the floor of that room opens up and starts swallowing people. Elsa falls through (thanks, **Baker** ), and I think Indy is as risk when his dad tells him to let the Grail go. Regardless of who falls in, Indy’s “that’s usually when the ground falls out from underneath your feet” does seem like foreshadowing. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3037 "2018-07-12T13:40:37Z")
Sitting having breakfast in the local McDonalad’s and “Afternoon Delight” comes on: Rubbing sticks and stones together makes the sparks ignite. I will never again hear the expression “sticks and stones” without thinking of genitals. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3038 "2018-07-12T14:09:32Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Sitting having breakfast in the local McDonalad’s and “Afternoon Delight” comes on: > > Rubbing sticks and stones together makes the sparks ignite. > > I will never again hear the expression “sticks and stones” without thinking of genitals. Just watch it. They may break your bones. Dirty words will never hurt you, though. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3039 "2018-07-12T14:12:29Z")
That whole song is such an innuendo that it’s like being hit with branches and boulders. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3040 "2018-07-12T14:57:45Z")
Finale of LOST: When Vincent (the Golden Retriever) lies down next to a dying Jack, the dog dies too. I think. Perhaps not. But, if so, damn them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3041 "2018-07-12T15:55:16Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > That whole song is such an innuendo that it’s like being hit with branches and boulders. Have you seen [Ron Burgundy’s video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoEZnWKtTOU) of it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=153)