# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 171
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3402 "2019-11-06T19:23:18Z")
It occurred to me after reading this [Why does water make the Wicked Witch of the West melt? - The Straight Dope](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1984/why-does-water-make-the-wicked-witch-of-the-west-melt/) that David Dunn in _Unbreakable_ has the same weakness as the Wicked Witch of the West. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3403 "2019-11-06T20:30:59Z")
> [@ThisOneGuy](#): > > It was all a lie to make it his wife’s fault that he was going to break his promise to Laser Wolf “The Butcher”. I’m possibly being whooshed, but it’s “Lazar.” Still a badass name, though. ---
**Author:** ![HowSoonIsThen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@HowSoonIsThen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HowSoonIsThen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3404 "2019-11-06T21:53:41Z")
Lady GaGa’s been getting away with swearing on the radio for years now. I just learnt that the lyrics are: “Pa pa pa poker face Pa pa fuck her face” ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3405 "2019-11-06T22:18:06Z")
> [@HowSoonIsThen](#): > > Lady GaGa’s been getting away with swearing on the radio for years now. I just learnt that the lyrics are: > > “Pa pa pa poker face > Pa pa fuck her face” So has Britney Spears, if you count spelling out swear words “All of the boys and all of the girls Are begging to **if you seek Amy** ” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3406 "2019-11-06T23:23:28Z")
> [@HowSoonIsThen](#): > > Lady GaGa’s been getting away with swearing on the radio for years now. I just learnt that the lyrics are: > > “Pa pa pa poker face > Pa pa fuck her face” :dubious::dubious: [https://www.google.com/search?q=poker+face&oq=poker+face&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8](https://www.google.com/search?q=poker+face&oq=poker+face&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) ---
**Author:** ![HowSoonIsThen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@HowSoonIsThen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HowSoonIsThen)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3407 "2019-11-07T02:47:32Z")
I looked it up again and it seems the only source is a fan wiki, so I guess I can’t confirm it’s true. Still, listen to the song again. It definitely sounds like it. ---
**Author:** ![HowSoonIsThen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@HowSoonIsThen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HowSoonIsThen)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3408 "2019-11-07T03:02:08Z")
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=iQlNXpPvfh4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iQlNXpPvfh4) This is the video where she “confirms it”. The way she says it makes me think it’s a joke, though. Seems a little too deadpan, if that makes sense. Possibly just making fun of the radio station for censoring it needlessly. But that could just be how she talks normally (I don’t follow her closely enough to know for sure). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3409 "2019-11-07T03:43:14Z")
> [@HowSoonIsThen](#): > > I looked it up again and it seems the only source is a fan wiki, so I guess I can’t confirm it’s true. > > Still, listen to the song again. It definitely sounds like it. I have to admit it does, more than a little! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3410 "2019-11-07T13:20:43Z")
It always seemed clear to me that she was saying “Fu Fu Fuck her face” Nobody else ever said anything, so I thought I was just hearing things. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3411 "2019-11-07T13:47:07Z")
If nothing else, it’s undeniable that “poker face” and “poke her face” are essentially homophones. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3412 "2019-11-09T18:48:16Z")
SUDDEN REALIZATION: Taylor Swift is her generation’s Olivia Newton John: 1. Started country 2. Switched to pop 3. Starring in movie based on massive Broadway sensation ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3413 "2019-11-10T05:48:22Z")
(This doesn’t fit the strict definition of this thread at all, but the, neither do 99% of the things posted here, so…) 30+ years ago, when I was a preteen, I saw an ad for a movie about John Belushi with the tagline (something like) “For John Belushi, every night was Saturday night”. And I remember not understanding what that meant, but for some reason it stuck in my head, and then a few years later, when I understood how adults work during the week but then go out partying on the weekend, with Saturday Night presumably being Maximum Party Night, it suddenly clicked that that’s what it was getting at. And then today, decades later, that whole thing popped into my head again, and the other shoe suddenly dropped. John Belushi’s fame came from being on _SATURDAY NIGHT Live_. It’s actually quite a clever tagline, now that I think about it. Maybe there’s yet another meaning that I’ll suddenly realize when I’m in my 70s. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3414 "2019-11-10T06:03:00Z")
Taglines, as you admit, are a creative work and… gotta tell you… that one _is_ pretty f-in obvious, so it fits! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3415 "2019-11-10T07:04:44Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > SUDDEN REALIZATION: Taylor Swift is her generation’s Olivia Newton John: > > 1. Started country > 2. Switched to pop > 3. Starring in movie based on massive Broadway sensation There’s even a passing physical resemblance. All she needs now is breast cancer, and that will be truly freaky. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3416 "2019-11-10T15:46:38Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > And then today, decades later, that whole thing popped into my head again, and the other shoe suddenly dropped. John Belushi’s fame came from being on _SATURDAY NIGHT Live_. I think it was also alluding to the fact that Belushi was facing the pressures of being a celebrity. Even when he wasn’t actually performing on the show, he was always famous because of Saturday Night Live. The show was always a presence in his life so “every night was Saturday Night”. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3417 "2019-11-11T16:30:54Z")
While typing the title of Billy Joel’s A New York State of Mind, I just realized it could be interpreted two different ways: A New York State of Mind referencing NY City OR A New York State of mind referring New York State Does state go with New York or Of Mind? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3418 "2019-11-11T16:33:57Z")
Or, a new York state of mind. Someone never thought about York (North Yorkshire, England), but now does. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3419 "2019-11-11T16:53:52Z")
That one never occurred to me, mostly because Billy Joel is about as New York as one can be. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3420 "2019-11-11T17:47:56Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > While typing the title of Billy Joel’s A New York State of Mind, I just realized it could be interpreted two different ways: > > A New York > State of Mind > referencing NY City > > OR > > A New York State > of mind > referring New York State > > Does state go with New York or Of Mind? As you observe, Billy Joel is pretty New York City. I can’t imagine that he was thinking of Rochester or Buffalo or Schenectady when he wrote this. But there is arguably a bit of wordplay in “New York State” and “State of Mind”. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3421 "2019-11-12T12:56:52Z")
Nowhere near a million times, but I’ve gotten about 2 dozen runs in on Monster Prom, and it only just occurred to me that Miranda the mermaid princess’s obsession with silverware is a reference to Ariel’s dinglehopper from The Little Mermaid. (Miranda being partially a parody of Ariel, herself, is pretty obvious, but that part didn’t click. It really should have since Miranda doesn’t eat, and thus the silverware obsession is otherwise completely nonsensical, even by the standards of a game where you can romance an eldritch abomination weeaboo.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=170) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=172)