# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 198
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3943 "2021-01-16T06:46:56Z")
Lois’s car wont start!! The EMP alone sends the USA into the stone age. And by ‘prevent the damage’ i guess he flies around the explosion at super speed cause otherwise, windows as far away as Denver are going to be blown out. Sure seems to me it would be smarter to just shove that bomb into outer space too. And by the way, Supes shouldnt need to promise to stop the Eastern bomb first. A 100 MT bomb exploding in Hackensack?? Goodbye some 80 million people in a flash. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3944 "2021-01-16T06:49:33Z")
I cant remember if ive posted this in this thread cause its so long but…for several years I thought ‘Borg’ was just a really cool name and didnt realize its short for Cyborg I only got the name ‘Mr. Atoz’ about a month ago. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3945 "2021-01-16T12:51:52Z")
In Preston Sturges’s _The Lady Eve,_ Barbara Stanwyck plays the title character who seduces Henry Fonda, a rich herpetologist (“Snakes are my life”). I just realized this shows Eve tempting the snake. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3946 "2021-01-16T13:45:32Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Sure seems to me it would be smarter to just shove that bomb into outer space too. What, a nuclear explosion IN SPACE!? Don’t you realize what an inconceivable horror that would be? The Kryptonian scientists tried to warn us! ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3947 "2021-01-16T21:40:45Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Sure seems to me it would be smarter to just shove that bomb into outer space too. Not really. The original plan, before Richard Donner was fired before _Superman II_ could be completed, was for Superman to do just that, and that would be what freed the Kryptonians from the Fortress of Solitude. You can see that version in _Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut_. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3948 "2021-01-17T02:16:28Z")
You know i absolutely conflated the Paris Superman II bomb with the Eastern seaboard H-bomb…thought he threw that in space, it exploded freeing the PZ villains and then he looked down to see the Western seaboard bomb explode. ---
**Author:** ![Honoria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/da6949/32.png) [@Honoria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honoria)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3949 "2021-01-18T02:57:55Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > I only got the name ‘Mr. Atoz’ about a month ago. I was today-years-old when I got it. 😖😬 ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3950 "2021-01-18T04:57:27Z")
> [@Honoria](#): > > > [@Pavelb1](#): > > > > I only got the name ‘Mr. Atoz’ about a month ago. > > I was today-years-old when I got it. 😖😬 . ?? There is something about that name to get? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3951 "2021-01-18T05:00:23Z")
Mr A to Z. Took me until I saw it in print. ---
**Author:** ![Honoria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/da6949/32.png) [@Honoria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honoria)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3952 "2021-01-18T06:33:23Z")
Mr. Atoz is a librarian - the caretaker of a collection of knowledge. Everything from A-to-z. ---
**Author:** ![Honoria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/da6949/32.png) [@Honoria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honoria)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3953 "2021-01-18T07:08:19Z")
Oops. Ninja-ed. Should have checked the thread before posting. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3954 "2021-01-18T17:34:18Z")
Thanks. I was going, “mister rat toes?” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3955 "2021-01-18T20:08:26Z")
> [@Honoria](#): > > Mr. Atoz is a librarian - the caretaker of a collection of knowledge. And [what](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Atoz) a librarian! ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3956 "2021-01-22T13:52:12Z")
Can’t say I’ve seen it _that_ many times, but several times at least; the episode of _Everybody Loves Raymond_ that revolves around the daughter’s collecting “hakidu cards”. Paul Reubens guest stars as the proprietor of a comic book store where Ray goes to try and buy a rare hakidu card. During their conversation Reubens says “the most important thing is to _love yourself_.” IIRC he evens repeats it for emphasis. The audience laughs and Ray says “that’s the greatest love of all”. I only just realized that it was a reference to Reubens getting caught several years earlier masturbating in an adult movie theater. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3957 "2021-01-28T13:44:26Z")
I hadn’t noticed it before, but I just saw an image of the character that I hadn’t seen in ages, and the similarity struck me. Was Buzz Lightyear’s look inspired by that of Space Angel? Space Angel was one of those made-for-TV ultra-low-budget cartoons that used mostly still images and that creepy “Syntha-Vox” mouth movement around 1960. But his space get-up includes a head cap, ear coverings, shoulder pads, and a “ribbed” abdominal section, just like Buzz Lightyear Space Angel > **[Space Angel (DVD, 1962) for sale online | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/p/10046037208)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Space Angel (DVD, 1962) at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! [https://www.google.com/search?q=space+angel&rlz=1C1EJFC\_enUS908US908&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6trjo2r7uAhWBiOAKHWUICn0Q\_AUoAnoECAoQBA&biw=1920&bih=969](https://www.google.com/search?q=space+angel&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS908US908&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6trjo2r7uAhWBiOAKHWUICn0Q_AUoAnoECAoQBA&biw=1920&bih=969) Buzz Lightyear [![](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Lightyear#/media/File:Buzz_Lightyear.png) ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Lightyear#/media/File:Buzz_Lightyear.png) ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3958 "2021-01-30T14:22:37Z")
Hey Cal, that looks remarkably plausible. The design match is pretty thorough, including the green and purple trim elements. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3959 "2021-01-31T06:16:24Z")
The musician Jason Mraz once released an album titled “Mr. A-Z” Which, you know, is how he spells his last name. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3960 "2021-01-31T22:28:01Z")
Watching the ‘lemonade’ scene in Duck Soup today, I wonder if Alan Ladd Jr. based a lot of his slow-burn Skipper stuff off Edgar Kennedy. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3961 "2021-01-31T23:05:08Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > The musician Jason Mraz once released an album titled “Mr. A-Z” _“They call me Mister A to Z /_ _because I’m all about the wordplay.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3962 "2021-01-31T23:21:49Z")
This one isn’t massively obvious at first, but is in high-def and if you re-watch the movie many times. The Matrix: in the scene where they are reflected in the doorknob, they could not hide the camera. What did they do? They put a leather coat and green tie on it to line-up with Lawrence Fishburne’s coat and tie so it would look like the camera was part of him in the reflection. It’s adorable and great movie craft. [Look at the doorknob in this shot. The cute camera is covered in black cloth and has a leather jacket and tie on it as well.](https://external-preview.redd.it/mR0bC3qBlxIB-om4SE5-1HCUjFP-HMu--sO65RLKvnw.jpg?auto=webp&s=86ba4f2ecdebcdaa4788969c08d566c36f9afc67) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=197) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=199)