# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 209
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4164 "2021-06-10T00:42:29Z")
Not necessarily ‘obvious’, but an English translation of ‘Johann Sebastian Bach’ is ‘John Brooks’, and John Brooks is a suck-ass name for the world’s greatest composer of Western music. On the other hand, I _can_ see woke Appalachian pastoral songwriter John Brooks penning _Sheep May Safely Graze_ so… ugh. Life is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4165 "2021-06-10T00:54:06Z")
John Augustus Brooks is not so bad. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4166 "2021-06-10T00:56:31Z")
But John “Gus” Brooks is right back there. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4167 "2021-06-10T01:05:22Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > The names of the first and last abbots in **A Canticle for Leibowitz** begin with A and Z, respectively. The book’s title also goes from a to z. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4168 "2021-06-10T02:54:46Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Not necessarily ‘obvious’, but an English translation of ‘Johann Sebastian Bach’ is ‘John Brooks’, If Giuseppe Verdi were English, he would be Joe Green. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4169 "2021-06-10T10:29:06Z")
And if Dawn Wells had married Jessica Alba, she’d be Dawn Dawn ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4170 "2021-06-10T11:23:27Z")
If Tuesday Weld married Fredric March’s grandson, she’d be Tuesday March the Second. (Does anyone know who I stole that one from?) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4171 "2021-06-10T11:29:42Z")
And Adam Sandler and Joel Schumacher have the same last name - they both mean “cobbler”, the first in Hebrew, the second in Yiddish. Weirdly, Sandler also starred in a movie called [The Cobbler](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3203616/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1), which led to some very surreal Hebrew-language posters. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4172 "2021-06-10T12:01:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But John “Gus” Brooks is right back there omg Passacaglia & Fugue in C-Minor by ‘Gus’ just isn’t cutting it for me. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4173 "2021-06-10T13:49:17Z")
On the other hand Albert Brooks real name is Einstein. Would you see a movie starring Albert Einstein? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4174 "2021-06-10T13:52:51Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Would you see a movie starring Albert Einstein? > **[I.Q.](https://www.movieposters.com/products/iq-mpw-32910?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1OTcnZuN8QIVOAeICR0TaABCEAQYBSABEgKS3vD_BwE)** > > MoviePosters.com best resources of original and vintage Movie Posters, Rare movies posters and memorabilia visit our online retail store movieposters.com movie posters, collectibles, memorabilia, movie memorabilia, poster, posters, hollywood... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4175 "2021-06-10T14:03:27Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > On the other hand Albert Brooks real name is Einstein. Would you see a movie starring Albert Einstein? I watch movies starring Michael Jordan, so, yes? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4176 "2021-06-10T15:27:46Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Would you see a movie starring Albert Einstein? > **[Champagne for Caesar (1950) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042325/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm)** > > Champagne for Caesar (1950) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. A romantic comedy that really does have Albert Einstein in it. Not archival footage, either. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4177 "2021-06-10T16:17:37Z")
Albert Einstein, Art Linkletter, _and_ Mel Blanc in a Vincent Price movie? Why has this gem not been unearthed until now? You’ve been holding out on us! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4178 "2021-06-10T16:28:14Z")
Incidentally, [it is available right now at archive.org](https://archive.org/details/ChampagneforCaesar_201512), sometimes you need to just register to check out a tittle, like what they do with many books. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4179 "2021-06-10T16:49:23Z")
I definitely love tittles, so I will give it a shot! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4180 "2021-06-10T21:30:09Z")
Each to their own. I’ve always preferred jots. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4181 "2021-06-11T12:25:35Z")
Now you can enjoy both! Especially if you’re Mormon > **[Amazon.com: Jots & Tittles - Bible Trivia Game : Toys & Games](https://www.amazon.com/Jots-Tittles-Bible-Trivia-Game/dp/B000YUTXVI)** > > Buy Jots & Tittles - Bible Trivia Game: Board Games - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4182 "2021-06-11T16:52:21Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The book’s title also goes from a to z. I’m less inclined to believe that’s intentional. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4183 "2021-06-11T20:24:30Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > The book’s title also goes from a to z > > I’m less inclined to believe that’s intentional. I don’t know. They both just involve Miller making up a character’s name to fit a pattern. If he intentionally created an a to z pattern once, I don’t see why he wouldn’t have done it twice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=208) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=210)