# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4184 "2021-06-14T18:29:42Z")

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I found an old CD that we bought for our child, one of her favorite TV shows, burned it, and I gotta tell ya, whoever wrote the music for the kids show _The Backyardigans_ was/is a freaking genius.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4185 "2021-06-14T19:24:54Z")

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If you listen to _Tubular Bells,_ he starts singing “caveman” lyrics:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4pfzuFvFIeI/maxresdefault.jpg "Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells Part 2") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pfzuFvFIeI)

What is he supposed to be saying, if anything?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4186 "2021-06-14T21:30:58Z")

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I did not realize until I read it last week the Cruella de Vil is supposed to mean Cruella _devil_. It may be due to “de” being like the German “von” in Spanish and “vil” in Spanish meaning the same as “vile” in English, and almost 50 yrs. ago, and when I first encountered the name, I did not speak English, so Cruella of Vile made sense, but still. Went right over me.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4187 "2021-06-15T18:09:05Z")

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It took me a while to realize why Cruella’s licence plate read DEVIL other than a joke until one day I had a revelation. “Oh! DE VIL, now I get it!” My excuse is that I thought her name was spelled DeVille.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4188 "2021-06-15T18:11:53Z")

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It’s always good to have excuses. And it is comforting that other make the same mistakes too 😉

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4189 "2021-06-16T19:08:04Z")

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I just realized that the Flash villain, Rainbow Raider’s real name, Roy G Bivilo, the first seven letters of his name consist of the mnemonic for the colors of the rainbow.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4190 "2021-06-16T19:14:40Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> Roy G Bivilo…

… red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, infrared, lilac, octopus.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4191 "2021-06-16T19:14:44Z")

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Have you watched _Goldfinger_?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4192 "2021-06-16T20:01:41Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Have you watched _Goldfinger_ ?

I have, but I’m not sure what the connection is.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4193 "2021-06-16T20:07:32Z")

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The name Auric (as in Auric Goldfinger) means “gold” or “relating to gold”.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4194 "2021-06-16T21:41:10Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> … red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, infrared, lilac, octopus.

Not “octopus”. “[Octarine](https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Octarine)”.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4195 "2021-06-16T23:00:39Z")

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Excellent. I should’ve thought of that! I knew of it, but couldn’t have told you the name…

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4196 "2021-06-17T04:10:25Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> … red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, infrared, lilac, octopus.

There is a website which locates any spot on the earth with three words. “ungraded lilac octopus” is in northern Brazil.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4197 "2021-06-17T04:46:47Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> … red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, infrared, lilac, octopus.

I like the cut of your jib. 🐙

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4198 "2021-06-19T16:23:31Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> infrared, lilac, octopus

I know octopuses can change shape and color, but infrared lilac is damn vibrant.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4199 "2021-06-20T15:18:25Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> > [@Telemark](#):
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> > Have you watched _Goldfinger_ ?
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> I have, but I’m not sure what the connection is.

Then don’t ask about _Goldmember._

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4200 "2021-06-23T16:01:01Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> [This scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICPyrnGYwg) from Tombstone and I realized two things during the same rewatching.

One more about this Tombstone scene. There are two sub-scenes, the staredown between Curley and Wyatt and gun/cup showdown between Johnny and Doc.

Now think about Curley and Wyatt in the river and Johnny and Doc in the woods. This scene sets up each couple as a protagonist/antagonist pair.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4201 "2021-06-23T16:13:45Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Then don’t ask about _Goldmember._

So you’re telling us to never say member again.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4202 "2021-06-23T16:36:47Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I found an old CD that we bought for our child, one of her favorite TV shows, burned it, and I gotta tell ya, whoever wrote the music for the kids show _The Backyardigans_ was/is a freaking genius.

You’re not wrong. Even though my daughter has long outgrown her Backyardigans DVDs, I’m reluctant to get rid of them. The songwriting (in so many different styles) is brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4203 "2021-06-27T01:10:43Z")

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Here’s one a very long time coming.

Desi Arnez played Ricky Ricardo on _I Love Lucy_. Ricky is short for Richard. In Spanish that’s Ricardo. So his formal name is Ricardo Ricardo!

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