# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 212
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4225 "2021-07-05T04:10:01Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > The ending to _A.I. Artificial Intelligence_ is dark It’s true and I believe Spielberg insisted that was the Kubrick ending. He felt like he was making that movie not just for the audience, but specifically for Stanley Kubrick. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4226 "2021-07-05T09:49:47Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Did you notice that the troll who works for the band (in Soul Music) is named “Asphalt”? Not just that - Asphalt is their _roadie_. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4227 "2021-07-05T11:15:48Z")
That’s what I meant! Was giving everyone one more chance to get it, ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4228 "2021-07-05T12:42:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Not just that - Asphalt is their _roadie_ . Ah, jeeze - totally missed that one. Damn you and your clever wordplay, Pterry! ::shakes fist at sky:: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4229 "2021-07-05T14:28:27Z")
@ASL_v2.0 , that’s a heck of a lot happier of an ending than I assumed the movie had. Taken at face value, what we have is that the far-future robots destroyed a person’s soul, just to give the robot-kid one day of snuggles. And everyone’s OK with that, because the far-future robots are based on an nth-generation iteration of a design for a psychopathic robot, instead of the loving robots that came before him. The engineers in the movie stated that their goal was to create a robot that was capable of love. But to anyone watching the movie, it was quite clear that, first of all, the kid was not capable of love, and second, that most of the other robots were. But the engineers don’t see that, and think that their experiment was a success, so from then on, all robots that they make will be based on the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4230 "2021-07-08T12:23:49Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > In the precise opposite of that, it took me years before I realized that the He-Man villain [Evil-Lyn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil-Lyn)’s name was a play on the name “Evelyn.” [Robot Chicken](https://coub.com/view/1onnr0)addressed this very issue. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4231 "2021-07-11T10:00:12Z")
Here’s one I just discovered about a week ago, and it’s almost 40 years in the making: The movie _The Breakfast Club_ opens with a quote from David Bowie that says “And these children that you spit on As they try to change their worlds Are immune to your consultations They’re quite aware of what they’re going through” I’ve never been a fan of David Bowie, so I just filed it away in the miscellany of my mind as something that he’d said in an interview (in the movie, it’s just shown onscreen. And it only lists it as something he said…it doesn’t specify if it’s a lyric or just a statement). The other day, I’m in the gas station, and the song “Changes” comes on. As I’m standing in line, the part of the song used in the movie plays, and I find myself speaking the words under my breath as he sings the part. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4232 "2021-07-23T13:56:18Z")
I am in the process of watching Pulp Fiction for the umpteenth time. And it just occured to me that Marcellus Wallace is "into\* watching dudes bang his wife. That explains that whole subplot, he has cameras all over his house, it explains why Maia is so sure Marcellus’ beef with Tony had nothing to her, and the general thing of why if he was so possessive he would put Vincent (who’s been out of the country for three years so can’t be _that_ close a friend) in what is such an obviously compromising position with his wife. The flaw in this theory is why he wasn’t then watching when she ODed. But maybe that was a trial run, I dunno? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4233 "2021-07-23T14:04:24Z")
I watched _Pulp Fiction_ a few days ago and noticed that Jules and Vincent never paid for their breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4234 "2021-07-23T20:08:18Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > The flaw in this theory is why he wasn’t then watching when she ODed. Doesn’t have to be watching it live, so I think the theory is still viable. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4235 "2021-07-23T21:41:34Z")
In _A Fish Called Wanda_, the character Georges Thomason, despite being central to the plot, is sort of forgettable. Partly that’s because he’s playing against John Cleese, Michael Palin, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Kevin Kline, but mostly because he spends most of the movie off screen in a jail cell. So, it sort of never occurred to me to wonder who played him. [Turns out Georges Thomason was played by Tom Georgeson.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4236 "2021-07-23T21:53:49Z")
I mean, possibly, but I don’t think it is that obvious. The cameras are likely because Marcellus is a bad gangster dude and probably needs high tech (at the time) security to make sure people don’t break into his house. As far as having Vincent take her out to dinner, that is definitely a unique thing as I think about it, but at the time it didn’t ping any weirdness. Maybe Marcellus just trusted his guys (because he would kill them otherwise) and wanted to entertain his wife while he was away. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4237 "2021-07-23T22:06:38Z")
[Well know that Shrek hangs upside down like Spider-man in Shrek 2, but I have to admit I did not really realize the mud on his face kind of makes the spider-man mask.](https://i.redd.it/t2x165lkawc71.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4238 "2021-07-23T23:51:33Z")
But the question is, did they leave a tip? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4239 "2021-07-24T00:46:15Z")
Reservoir Fiction? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4240 "2021-07-25T17:43:28Z")
In Tremors, Kevin Bacon’s character wants the female seismologist to be: > You will have long blonde hair, big green eyes, world class breasts, ass that won’t quit and legs that go all the way up. She isn’t. However, in Tremors 2, the girl Fred Ward ends up with is pretty much all that, plus brains. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4241 "2021-07-25T19:32:57Z")
Wow, what was the context for that, and did his character get sued over it? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4242 "2021-07-25T20:22:45Z")
When [Rowan Atkinson played Doctor Who](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM), at the end his companion played by Julia Sawalha rejects the Doctor’s new regenerated form played by Joanna Lumley. At first I thought because Julia’s character is not into girls - she is clearly infatuated by the Handsome Doctor (btw: props to Classic Loki, RIP) but then I realized on Ab Fab, Saffron played by Julia Sawalha and Patsy played by Joanna Lumley couldn’t stand each other. I don’t know that the casting director was playing on that but gives some color to Julia’s reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4243 "2021-07-26T03:40:54Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > OK, I feel like a total moron now. Earlier I was thinking of another show that had a Cyborg, and then it dawned on me that the Borg from Star Trek TNG was just a shortening of the word Cyborg, which is what they are. :smack::smack::smack: Hah! You might have realized that ten years ago, but I was today years old when we passed a Borg-Warner factory, and my wife made a Borg joke, and my 8-year-old daughter asked what the Borg were, and I said, “You know, that big cube space ship on Star Trek with the evil robots?” and she said, “You mean cyborg” and I was like HOOOOLY SHIT ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4244 "2021-07-26T09:17:34Z")
I kind of felt the same way when I heard the actual name of Will-I-am and what Flo Rida means. 😳 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=211) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=213)